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                               CHRISTIANITY
                              IN RELATION TO
                       FREETHOUGHT, SCEPTICISM, AND
                                  FAITH:


                             THREE DISCOURSES

                      BY THE BISHOP OF PETERBOROUGH.

                                   WITH

                             SPECIAL REPLIES

                        BY MR. CHARLES BRADLAUGH.

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ADVERTISEMENT.


IT will be seen by the following Circular and Correspondence how the
Discourses of the Bishop of Peterborough and Mr. Bradlaugh’s Replies
thereto were brought about.  The Dean’s Circular speaks of four
Discourses to be delivered by the Bishop, but in fact only the three here
reported were given.  This volume, therefore, contains the whole of both
sides of the question, so far as the discussion has hitherto proceeded in
Norwich.  The speeches were all taken down by a competent shorthand
reporter, specially engaged for the _National Reformer_.

The reader will clearly see by the Correspondence that the Christians
refused the proposal of the Secularists that the two parties should
co-operate in publishing together and circulating as widely as possible
the Discourses and Replies.  Mr. Bradlaugh has therefore taken upon
himself the responsibility of their joint publication.  The extraordinary
reasons given by the Dean (in the last paragraph of his letter of Feb.
15th) for refusing the perfectly fair offer of Mr. Cooper, will not pass
unnoted.  His claim to certainty _may_ differ from the claim to
infallibility made on behalf of the Pope and the Romish Church, and the
principle on which he condemns the dissemination of Sceptical works as
treason to human welfare, _may_ differ from that which in Rome has led to
the establishment of the _Index Expurgatorius_; but we confess that in
neither case can we see the difference, and we challenge the Dean to show
that there really is any.

We are confident that Freethinkers generally will appreciate the
disinterested zeal of Mr. R. A. Cooper in making all arrangements
necessary to ensure that the Bishop’s Discourses should be fitly answered
on the spot and without delay.

                                                           THE PUBLISHERS.

_April_, 1871.




CIRCULAR OF THE DEAN OF NORWICH.


SIR,—I am about to ask your kind help in an enterprise undertaken for the
religious welfare of our fellow-citizens, to the success of which your
co-operation may very materially contribute.  It has been thought that in
large cities, where sceptical views are often so much disseminated, and
spread so widely among all classes, good might be done, under God’s
blessing, by an annual series of discourses from some competent preacher,
directed against modern forms of infidelity, and afterwards published and
circulated at so low a price as should put them within the reach of all.
It is chiefly with the view of holding such discourses there, that the
Dean and Chapter have recently caused the Nave of the Cathedral Church to
be lighted and furnished with chairs, _all of which_ (except, a very few
reserved for persons engaged in the service, or connected with the
Cathedral) _will be perfectly free_.  With the view of giving the
preachers a larger discretion as to time, and of making the whole service
shorter, it is proposed to use before the sermon the Litany only with one
or two hymns.  I may add that the whole scheme has the thorough sanction
and concurrence of the Lord Bishop of the Diocese, who has been consulted
on every part of it.

_The Lord Bishop of Peterborough has kindly undertaken to give the first
series of discourses on Tuesday_, _the_ 21_st_, _Tuesday_, _the_ 28_th_,
_Wednesday_, _the_ 29_th_, _and Thursday_, _the_ 30_th_ _of March_, _the
service each evening commencing at_ 8 _p.m._

If you approve of our scheme (and pray observe that _the discourses_,
_having for their object the vindication and establishment of the
Christian faith_, _will in all probability hardly notice the points on
which Christians of various Communions differ_), will you kindly help us,
first, by making known among your workpeople or parishioners the days and
hours of the services, with the name of the preacher, and encouraging
them to attend; secondly, by circulating among them the discourses, when
published, of which I shall be greatly pleased to send you as large a
number as you think you can dispose of?  On this last point I shall be
obliged by a communication from you.

The subject of the first series of discourses will be “Free Thought.”

           I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant,

                                                 E. MEYRICK GOULBURN, D.D.
                                                          Dean of Norwich.

The Deanery, Norwich, February 7th, 1871.




CORRESPONDENCE.


                                                 Norwich, Feb. 13th, 1871.

REV. SIR,—I received with extreme pleasure your circular letter of 7th
inst., relating to, and defining the objects of the Discourses intended
to be delivered next month in the Cathedral, by the Bishop of
Peterborough, and I am induced to reply to it by the conviction that
great good may result from “the scheme,” if you can be induced to modify
it in some particulars.

The circular states that the Discourses are to be “directed against
modern forms of infidelity,” and have for their object the “vindication
and establishment of the Christian faith,” but I assume your ultimate
object is the vindication and establishment of truth—no matter what the
truth may be.  If my assumption be correct, I heartily sympathise with
your object, and as a Sceptic or Infidel, will co-operate with my
Christian brethren if permitted.

May I call your attention to a practical difficulty in the way of the
scheme, which I fear you have not sufficiently considered?  In the
present state of opinion, or rather in the absence of real opinion, on
these subjects, Sceptics or Infidels cannot always insure the attention
of Christian hearers, or of persons indifferent to the subject of their
discourses, but these and not the confirmed Infidels, are the persons the
zealous Sceptic most desires to reach.  I imagine your difficulty is the
same.  You want to get at the mighty mass who know and care nothing about
these questions, and also at the Infidel whose opinions you deem so
mischievous.  The fact is, the great mass and the Infidel are not likely
to attend unless their attention be in some manner especially drawn to
the Discourses, but you will probably have a large congregation of
believing Christians, whose faith may be confirmed, but yet who do not
hold opinions you wish to change.

I beg to suggest a mode by which I think the difficulty may be removed,
and an interest created that will be useful to the cause of truth—to
Christian truth, if Christianity be true—but to truth, whether
Christianity be true or false.

I intend to invite to Norwich some person who shall be well known as a
representative exponent “of modern forms of Infidelity,” and request him
to deliver a course of lectures at about the same time, and on the same
subject as that chosen by the Bishop of Peterborough, and if you think it
would be useful to give the public the opportunity of reading as well as
hearing the discourses, both expositions of the subject might be
published together, and more extensively circulated and read, in
consequence of the greater interest that would be thus created.

I have always scrupulously abstained from doing anything to influence the
politics or religion of persons in my employment, but in accordance with
your wish, I will take care to inform them all of the Discourses, and
also acquaint them with the high reputation which the Bishop of
Peterborough enjoys as a preacher.

I should be willing to subscribe for 200 copies of the joint publication,
which will enable me to present one to every man and boy in my
employment, who is willing to accept it, and the remainder I shall be
happy to distribute according to the suggestion of the circular.

                  I am, Rev. Sir, your obedient servant,

                                                         ROBERT A. COOPER.

The Very Rev. E. M. Goulburn,
            Dean of Norwich.

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                                    The Deanery, Norwich, Feb. 15th, 1871.

SIR,—I beg to acknowledge your letter of the 13th inst., and to thank you
for the readiness you express to circulate among persons in your
employment, the announcement of the Bishop of Peterborough’s Sermons.

I regret that I cannot meet this kindness on your part by assisting in
any way in the circulation of tracts by a representative exponent “of
modern forms of infidelity,” and I will explain in few words the reason
why I must decline the joint publication suggested by your letter.

Professing yourself (as you do) a “Sceptic,” by which I conceive is meant
(according to the derivation of the word) one who has doubts as to
religious truth, and, therefore, is engaged in an inquiry, having for its
object the resolution of those doubts and the arrival at a conclusion; it
is (under your view of the subject) perfectly consistent and reasonable
that you should do all in your power to get both sides of the religious
question ably and fairly expounded, in order to give yourself and others
an opportunity of forming a right conclusion.

But my conclusion on the momentous question has long since been made up.
I am as firmly convinced that Christianity is God’s own message to the
world, the truth and the only truth, the way, and the only way, of
happiness and peace, as that the sun is now shining in the heavens.  I
cannot, therefore, help regarding any attempt to throw doubt or discredit
on Christianity as a treason against the highest well-being of my
fellow-creatures.  And you will see, therefore, that (under my view) I
could not properly join in disseminating publications, which, at the very
least, will insinuate a doubt as to that revealed religion which I hold
to be the only means of raising and saving our fallen race.

                  I remain, Sir, your obedient servant,

                                                      E. MEYRICK GOULBURN.

Mr. Robert A. Cooper.

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                                                 Norwich, Feb. 25th, 1871.

REV. SIR,—I have to acknowledge the receipt of yours of the 15th inst.
(which came to hand on the 22nd), and to regret that you can engage in
the circulation of only one side of the important question you propose to
expound.  And I regret it for these reasons, because by so restricting
your action, you, while attacking, prevent the fair expression of that
form of thought which you seek to destroy, and allow those who hold such
opinions to shelter themselves, if need be, under the assumption that
your exposition of the case is not theirs.  And, also, because your
expression of the unqualified certainty of your own conviction of the
truth of Christianity (obtained, doubtless, from a consideration of all
sides of the subject), is open to the objection that you fear to trust
the impartial examination of the evidence of that truth to the minds of
others, and implies a latent, though unconscious, doubt of the certainty
of the proof of that truth of which you speak so positively.

I cannot accept your description of my position as a “Sceptic or
Infidel,” but let that pass.

I am still disposed to subscribe for 200 copies of the Bishop’s sermons,
and if you desire me to distribute more, I have no doubt I can dispose of
a considerable number.

                  I am, Rev. Sir, your obedient servant,

                                                         ROBERT A. COOPER.

The Very Rev. E. M. Goulburn,
            Dean of Norwich.

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                                    The Deanery, Norwich, Feb. 25th, 1871.

SIR,—In reply to your letter of to-day, in which you say, “I cannot
accept your description of my position as a ‘Sceptic or Infidel,’” I
hasten to assure you that I should never have presumed to describe your
position as such, had I not imagined I had your own authority for doing
so.  The words of your letter of the 13th inst., from which I drew this
inference, are:—

    “If my assumption be correct, I heartily sympathise with your object,
    and as a Sceptic or Infidel, will co-operate with my Christian
    brethren if permitted.”

I am thankful and rejoiced to find that my inference was an incorrect
one; but I trust you will acknowledge that there was some ground in the
wording of the sentence for my making it.

I shall be happy to request your _acceptance_ of 200 copies of the
Bishop’s Discourses, and am much obliged to you for your offer of
circulating them.

                          Yours very faithfully,

                                                           E. M. GOULBURN.

Mr. Robert A. Cooper.

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                                                 Norwich, March 1st, 1871.

REV. SIR,—I am sorry that in the sentence you refer to, I did not express
my meaning with sufficient clearness to be understood; though I am unable
to see that it will bear the construction you put upon it.

In the circular letter, you speak of the prevalence, in large cities, of
“sceptical views,” and also of “modern forms of infidelity,” evidently
using the words “sceptical” and “infidelity” in their popular and
ordinary, and not in their strict, grammatical sense.

I say evidently, because the phrases “sceptical views,” and “modern
infidelity” appear to be intended as equivalent, and I therefore assume
that you use them in their popular sense, because if I am to suppose you
use the word “sceptical” in its strict etymological meaning, I must also
that you do the word “infidelity,” and I am reluctant to think that you
would, in speaking of the opinions of people who you must know are as
sincere and honest as yourself, deliberately and intentionally do that.

By “sceptical views” and “modern forms of infidelity,” I understood you
to mean both doubt and disbelief of the truth of religion in general, and
Christianity in particular, and I therefore accepted in substance your
own phraseology in the popular sense in which you appeared to use it, and
I speak of myself as a “Sceptic or Infidel,” meaning thereby that I am
not merely a doubter, but a disbeliever—a disbeliever not of “religious
truth,” but the truth of any religion.  It is so common for religious
people to speak of disbelievers in general as “sceptics” or “infidels,”
without regard to the derivation or strict meaning of the words, that I
think it would have been pedantic to appear to have understood them in
any other than their common, and I deem not very correct, meaning.

You were, therefore, perfectly entitled to say you had my authority for
describing me as a “Sceptic:” what I demurred to was your description of
my position as a “Sceptic” as I had adopted the term in the sense in
which you seem to use it in your circular, but not in the sense of your
letter.  I think the misconception would have been avoided had you used
the whole instead of the half of my expression—viz., “Sceptic or
Infidel,” instead of “Sceptic” only; as your description, if correct, of
the position of a “Sceptic” will clearly not apply to a “Sceptic or
Infidel.”

And here I will endeavour to state “my conclusion on the momentous
question.”  I am quite convinced that the history of Jesus Christ, as
recorded in the New Testament, is a fable entirely unworthy of credence,
and that the Christian and all other systems of religion are but
mischievous delusions, but the nature of the evidence by which I arrive
at these conclusions, is so different from that which convinces me that
the sun is shining in the heavens (space?) that I could not use that form
of words as correctly expressing the strength of my convictions.

I regret it is necessary to occupy your time with so long an explanation.
Although I could not agree with what you said, I did not wish to trouble
you further on that point, and thought it would be sufficient to indicate
a dissent without going into detail.  Brevity was a failure, and I
apologise.

I am, Rev. Sir, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

                                                         ROBERT A. COOPER.

The Very Rev. E. M. Goulburn,
            Dean of Norwich.




CHRISTIANITY
IN RELATION TO
FREETHOUGHT, SCEPTICISM, AND FAITH.
CHRISTIANITY AND FREETHOUGHT.


 [_First Discourse of the Bishop of Peterborough_, _delivered in Norwich
                    Cathedral_, _March_ 28_th_, 1871.]

ON Tuesday evening, March 28th, the Right Rev. Dr. Magee, Lord Bishop of
Peterborough, preached the first of a series of Sermons on Christianity
and Freethought, before a large congregation in the nave of the
Cathedral.  According to the Dean’s previous arrangements, the nave was
occupied by men, and the south aisle by ladies.  The nave was brilliantly
lighted, and the Lord Bishop of Norwich and the full chapter took part in
the service.

After prayers were intoned and a hymn sung, the Right Rev. Prelate
selected his text from the Gospel according to St. John, viii. 33: “How
sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?”  His Lordship said:

    The scene that is described in this chapter makes, I think, a fitting
    introduction to the series of sermons of which I am here to-night to
    preach the first.  These sermons are meant to be pleadings for
    Christ.  Their object is to win back to him those who may have left
    him, to cause those who have not left him to cling to him more
    strongly; to win back disciples to Christ, and to confirm disciples
    in their discipleship.  That is what I and those who are to follow me
    here have in view.  For this reason I ask you to-night to study this
    story in the life of Christ, because it is one in which we see how
    Christ himself, long ago, first won and then lost disciples.

    The scene commences with a large accession of disciples to Christ.
    We read, that as he spoke these words many believed on him, and the
    scene ends with many of those very believers taking up stones to cast
    at him.  First they believed on him, shortly after they seek to take
    his life; and after this is over, we read how his own disciples came
    to him again, and said to him, “Master, tell us.”  Now, brethren, we
    Christians believe that in this scene was a prophecy of the whole
    history of Christ’s life upon earth in his Church; the story of those
    who come and those who go, of those who believe in him at first, and
    of those who cease to believe in him, and also the inner history of
    those that never forsake him.  We believe that when the noisy strife
    of things has passed away, and the execrations of those that hated
    him have ceased to ring upon the ear, there still will be heard the
    voice of the Church, saying “Master, tell us,” that which others will
    not, or cannot listen to; “Master, to whom shall we go? thou hast the
    words of eternal life.”  But it is not on those who thus stay with
    Christ that I ask you to fix your attention.  I ask you to-night to
    contemplate with me, not those who remain with him, but those who
    leave him.  I ask you to understand a little of that mental history
    that is here shown us, telling us how they passed from belief to
    doubt, and from doubt to rejection of Christ.

    It will be profitable to us, I think, both to those who believe and
    to those who unhappily disbelieve in Christ, that we should study a
    little this early instance of Freethought and disbelief.  It will be
    good for those who do not believe in Christ to look at this scene,
    because it will show this fact, that there were those who disbelieved
    in Christ.  It will show this fact, that this is not a religion whose
    origin is lost in the dim distance of time; it is not a legendary
    faith of which no one can say when it began or who first taught it,
    as it arose in historical times; a faith continuing from the very
    first, not without question or dispute, but in spite of the question
    and notwithstanding the dispute.  It will show that Freethought is as
    old as Christianity itself, and when we read how long it is since men
    had the same doubts and difficulties, it will occur to us that after
    all there must be a wonderful power in this faith that struggles into
    acceptance in spite of those doubts and difficulties, and that there
    must be some marvellous vitality in the faith that has survived 1800
    years, something that is worth inquiring into.  This bush that is
    burning and never burned, is worth turning aside to look at.  It will
    be good for us to look at those early unbelievers, because it
    strengthens our faith to be reminded that unbelief is no new thing,
    and that Christianity has survived more than 1800 years.

    It is good for another reason; it teaches us to try to understand the
    feelings of those who don’t believe; it teaches us to try to put
    ourselves in their place, to try to understand how it is they don’t
    agree with us; to make all allowances for the honesty of their
    disbelief, to try to enter fairly into their motives and feelings.
    If we don’t do this, we are in danger of being hard, and bitter, and
    unjust in contending for him, but not in his spirit; forgetting that
    there is not one of those who disbelieve in him, for whom he has not
    died, forgetting that an unbeliever is not an enemy to be driven back
    from the fortress, but an exile to be won back by earnest reasoning
    to his Father in Heaven.  Let us learn, above all, that in all our
    arguments for Christianity we should be filled with the spirit of him
    for whom we plead, and that we should manifest the truth in love.

    We ask you then to contemplate this scene, in which we find Christ
    winning and losing disciples, and learn something.  And the first
    thing we have to remark is this, how very little those that come and
    go seem to have been influenced by what we call the evidences of
    Christianity.  They were doubtless drawn to Christ by the fame of his
    miracles, it does not seem to have been his miracles that converted
    them.  It was as “he said those words many believed on him.”  Then he
    said something else, and they left him.  It was not that they doubted
    of his ability to work miracles, but because something he said
    offended them.  They came to him not altogether in consequence of his
    miracles, and they left him in spite of his miracles.  It teaches us
    that the religion of Christ was not received unquestioningly, even in
    the case of his miracles, for in spite of his miracles they ventured
    to question his doctrine; so that those who say Christianity was
    received in an ignorant age are contradicted by the story of
    Christianity itself, for many of those who saw his miracles rejected
    him.

    There is another reason for noting this, in order to observe the
    power of prejudice and passion in influencing men’s belief or
    disbelief.  There are few men who believe strictly in accordance with
    their reflecting faculties.  The desires, prejudices, and passions of
    men largely share in the making of their beliefs; and if this be true
    of beliefs, it is equally true of men’s unbelief.  If there be those
    here who do not believe in Christ, I ask them: Are you quite sure
    that your unbelief is the result of calm, and thoughtful, and careful
    study of what Christianity has to say for itself?  Are you sure you
    have not hastily taken up some objections against Christianity
    without waiting for the answer?  Are you quite sure that you have not
    misunderstood some words of Christ—some words that, having offended
    you, you have passed away without waiting for the reason?  Are you
    sure that there is no unreason in your unbelief, you that say there
    is so little reason in our belief?  It is because I am deeply
    convinced of this that I am here.  It is because I believe that
    misconception, prejudice, and hasty adoption of other men’s opinions
    upon slender grounds, make a large part of ignorant belief, often a
    large part of ignorant unbelief.  It is because these
    misunderstandings may be removed, that I am here to speak of the
    subjects I have announced.  It is because I believe it is useless to
    argue against prejudices, that I shall endeavour to remove those
    prejudices, and mistaken feelings and opinions, that make men
    unwilling to listen to arguments for Christianity.  Those who follow
    me will bring many arguments for Christianity, and I am here to-night
    to prepare the way for them.

    I ask you, then, to turn again to this story, and to see why it was
    that those new disciples left Christ.  It was for this reason, that
    they were offended because he appeared to deny them the possession of
    liberty.  When they became his disciples he said, “Ye shall know the
    truth, and the truth shall make you free.”  Then they answered him,
    “We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man; how
    sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?”  He had offered them liberty,
    and this implied that they were not free, and this they regarded as
    the gravest of affronts.  We, the children of Abraham, the
    aristocracy of humanity, those whom the Lord delivered out of Egypt,
    whose slaves are we that you venture to offer us freedom?  The offer
    is an absurdity and an affront, and you are denying us freedom in the
    very words; and so left him, for they deemed it an insult to their
    birthright of freedom.  We, who understand the story, can see how
    much these men were mistaken.  Our Lord was offering them moral
    freedom, and they supposed that he was offering them political
    freedom.

    There was a misunderstanding as to the nature of liberty; he offered
    them a liberty for which they were not desirous.  It was a dispute
    about liberty between Christ and those first Freethinkers.  Now, may
    there not be some misunderstanding still?  That is the subject of my
    sermon to-night.  It is Christianity and Freethought.  What do you
    understand by Freethought?  Something opposed to Christianity; and by
    a Freethinker, one who rejects all or a part of Christianity.  Why do
    such men give themselves that name?  Because it expresses their
    conviction that Christianity is opposed to freedom of thought, that
    it puts a restraint on the human intellect.  They say that
    Christianity shackles the human mind.  “I boast of my freedom,” says
    the Freethinker; “you require me to submit the freedom of my
    intellect to the authority of a book.  My mind resents such an
    attempt to fetter it, I submit to no authority.  You priests and
    bigots that come to me with your authority, and threaten me with
    penalties for daring to think thus and thus, you are convicting
    yourselves of falsehood before you utter another word, for you are
    opposed to freedom.  I cannot listen to your evidences of
    Christianity.  No proof of miracle will make me give up my freedom of
    thought.”  How often do we hear of the bigotry of the priest, and the
    enlightened Freethought of the age.  Mark then, we have the issue
    raised between Christianity and Freethought.  Let us understand it
    clearly, before we go further.  It is true that Christianity comes
    with a claim of authority.  It is true that Christianity says,
    Believe this and that, because Christ has said it.  He is seeking men
    now, as he did, with authority; and it is true that Christianity does
    warn men of certain penalties, heavy and grievous penalties, if they
    don’t believe what Christ says.  Christianity is authoritative
    teaching, accompanied with threats of penalties.  Now we are told,
    that is just the point at which Christianity comes into collision
    with Freethought.  Freedom of thought will not endure to hear of
    authority, and resents the very idea of penalty.

    Now we have put before us the issue between Christianity and
    Freethought.  It is necessary that we should define for ourselves
    what is Freethought.  The word is on men’s lips, and I am not sure
    that they understand what they mean by it.  Let us try to understand
    what is Freethought.  It may mean one of three things.  It may mean
    freedom as opposed to necessity, it may mean freedom as opposed to
    authority, or it may mean freedom as opposed to responsibility.  As
    regards the first of these, by freedom as opposed to necessity, we
    mean that a man is free to think in one way or another, that it is
    not absolutely necessary for him always to think in one way or
    another; that is to say, his thought is not the necessary product of
    physical constitution, that his thoughts do not grow out of him, as
    the blade grows out of the seed or the flower out of the plant; that
    it is not mechanical or necessary, but that a man has the power to
    choose how he will think.  Then as to freedom as opposed to
    authority, we mean that a man is not bound to think like other
    men—that is, his thought is not subject to any other man’s, and he
    has a right to say, “That is your opinion and not mine.”  Freedom of
    thought as opposed to responsibility means that a man is not
    answerable for his belief, and that whatever he thinks on any
    subject, he is never to suffer for his belief in any way whatever.
    These three are the only possible meanings.

    Now let us take them in their order.

    First, freedom of thought as opposed to necessity.  Does Christianity
    deny this freedom?  On the contrary, it asserts and vindicates it.
    Christianity teaches that man is free, and terribly free, to will his
    own belief.  It teaches this by the fact that it tells us a man is
    answerable for his belief, for a man cannot be answerable for that in
    which he has no choice, any more than he has of the colour of his
    hair.  If he be answerable, it can only be because he has the power
    of choosing.  It is remarkable that many people who call themselves
    Freethinkers, insist on it that man is not answerable for his belief
    any more than for the colour of his hair.  They thus deny the freedom
    of thought.  Freedom and responsibility always go together; so you
    see in this view of Freethought, Christianity, so far from denying
    it, asserts it against many Freethinkers; and in this respect the
    Christian is the Freethinker, and maintains the doctrine of
    Freethought.

    Second, freedom of thought as opposed to the idea of all authority.
    We are told that thought cannot be free if it submits to any
    authority, and it is quite true in the abstract.  Attend to this.  It
    is true that the abstract idea of freedom is opposed to the abstract
    idea of authority, in thought or religion.  But it is equally true,
    that these are opposed in everything else.  It is just as true in
    politics, in which the idea of freedom is opposed to the idea of
    authority.  Where there is absolute freedom, there cannot be
    authority.  Where there is absolute authority, we cannot understand
    logically how there can be any freedom.  Starting from the maxim,
    “Man is free,” we arrive logically at the conclusion that there can
    be no authority for that man.  Starting from the axiom, “Authority is
    supreme,” is to arrive at the logical conclusion that there is no
    room for liberty.  The two ideas are logically opposed, the one to
    the other.  But are they so in practice?  Is it a fact that freedom
    is found inconsistent with authority?  Is it not true that men
    reconcile them every day?  Is it not true that thought is free, and
    yet thought submits itself to authority?  Many cherished opinions are
    received on authority, not because we have proved them ourselves.  We
    take the opinion of a lawyer on law, and of a doctor on medicine, as
    authority.  Morality itself is largely received upon authority.  We
    are always submitting ourselves to authority.  Logically, freedom and
    authority are separate, but there never was a society in which the
    two did not come together.  They are like the chemical elements,
    which have a strong affinity for each other, and are never apart,
    except when separated in the laboratory of the chemist, but the
    moment they are liberated they are together again.  It is just the
    same with Freethought and authority.  Men are always submitting
    themselves to authority, and if they did not they would never learn
    or know anything.  When we speak of the authority of a revelation
    from God, we mean that we bring to Freethought, to judge of, the
    reasons for believing that the teacher knows more about the things he
    teaches than others.  That is a very large part of what is called
    “the evidence from miracles.”  Men speak as if the miracles were the
    evidences of the morals of the Gospel.  That is not what we say.
    What we say is this, Our Lord coming down from heaven (as we believe)
    to tell us of another and supernatural world of which he knew and we
    did not, gave evidence of that knowledge by bringing down the
    supernatural.

    Let us suppose we were walking through one of the church-yards of
    this city with another person, and the discourse fell upon the
    resurrection.  If you said it was impossible for any authority to
    prove it, and the person said, I know there can be a resurrection of
    the dead, and I will give you a proof of it; and suppose he bade the
    dead rise, and they sprang alive out of the earth; do you mean to say
    that would be no authority from him on the question of the
    resurrection of the dead?  Would it be a tyranny over Freethought to
    be told that the dead can rise?  So you see Freethought is not
    inconsistent with the authority of a revelation, for this reason,
    that the revelation submits its proof to your Freethought.

    I am not saying that I have proved the miracles, I am only saying
    that by miracles we are not violating Freethought; but on the
    contrary we are maintaining it.  I speak as unto wise men, judge ye
    what I say.

    I now come to the third idea of freedom, that is, freedom as opposed
    to responsibility; and this is, I really believe, what men mean when
    they speak of Freethought as opposed to Christianity.  They say, “You
    threaten us with penalties for unbelief, and our whole soul revolts
    against that.  It would be tyrannical to punish a man for his
    opinions.  We cannot endure men to do this.  Do you mean to say that
    God will be less just than man and persecute us for our opinions?”
    Let us see whether we clearly understand this question.  This
    objection goes to the principle that no man should be punished for
    his opinions.  I will ask you to consider this question.  Is it true
    that no man under any circumstances should be punished for his
    opinions?  And again is it true that men do not suffer for their
    opinions?  It is true that so long as he keeps his thoughts to
    himself, he will not be punished for them, for the simple reason that
    they are not known; but when he utters them, he may be punished.  Is
    it not true, that a man who utters a seditious, a libellous, or
    indecent thought is punished and should be punished?  And why?
    because the law of liberty of the individual comes into collision
    with the higher law of the general welfare, and must give way to it.
    There are other penalties; society punishes a man more sharply than
    the law.  There are offences of thought and speech which the law does
    not and should not punish, and yet which society visits very heavily.
    Let a man entertain evil and unkind thoughts of his neighbour, and
    show it by his looks, and we know how society visits him for his
    Freethought.  Every man knows that if all the thoughts of his heart
    were laid bare, before his fellow men, he might pass a miserable and
    outcast existence, because society defends itself against this
    injurious exercise of Freethought.

    Then pass a step further, and think of the constitution of nature and
    of the laws of the world.  Does this world of nature allow of
    Freethought?  Do these natural laws allow a man to make mistakes with
    impunity?  Let any man think wrong of the powers of nature, that fire
    will not burn nor water drown, and he will soon find himself visited
    with a sharp and merciless punishment, for there are no laws so
    merciless as those of nature.  He that transgresses them ignorantly
    or wittingly, is beaten alike with many stripes.  The great revolving
    machinery of the world will not arrest its revolutions because of the
    cry of a human creature that by a very innocent error, even by his
    mistaken action of Freethought, is ground to pieces beneath them.  If
    the man of science warns us of the consequences of transgressing the
    laws that he has discovered, we should be at liberty to think
    differently from him, but it will be at our own proper peril, if we
    exercise our Freethought.  As sure as you do, so you will suffer from
    it.  It is not the prophet or his warning that brings down the
    penalty, it is not the book upon sanitary law that brings diptheria
    or scarlet fever, it is not the sinking of the mercury in the glass
    that brings the storm; the written proof in the one case, the mute
    proof in the other, foretell the evil, but do not create it.  Nature
    and science, then, have their warnings, and threatenings, and
    penalties; and nature and science avenge themselves on Freethought.

    And mark this, the more and more you lose sight of personal will, the
    fainter and fainter seems to grow the chance of forgiveness, less and
    less room there seems to be for Freethought; there is something in
    the words, “I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and
    earth,” there is something in the loving will that has power to save
    the Freethought of his erring creatures from the soulless and
    merciless machinery of law.

    Now we see how little room there is for Freethought in this world of
    law.  Let us introduce into the world a fact; let us introduce the
    idea of a God; let us suppose for the sake of argument that there is
    a God.  Can it be a matter of indifference how he feels toward us,
    and how we should feel and act toward him?  How can there be a
    possibility of thought without consequences as regards God, if there
    be no possibility of thought without consequences as regards the very
    least of God’s works?  Does it make no difference to us whether he is
    an Almighty tyrant or a father to us, whether or not he can suspend
    the terrible laws of nature which we dread?  Can we hear about this
    God, and not wish to learn all about him?  Can there be anything more
    absurd than the saying, Let us have religion and no theology?  Is
    that more sensible than to say, Let us have sun, moon, and stars, and
    no astronomy; let us have plants and no botany; let us have the earth
    and no geology?  If God be a fact, there must certainly come theology
    out of that fact.  As geology grows out of the fact with which it
    deals, so does theology grow out of a fact.  Of all the errors of the
    time there cannot be a greater absurdity than a religion without
    theology, for every religion teaches our obligations to a higher
    being.  If there be a God, there must be a theology.  I will ask you
    what is this creed of Christendom?  It is nearly all the assertion of
    facts:

    “I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and
    in Jesus Christ his only son our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy
    Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was
    crucified, dead and buried; he descended into hell, the third day he
    rose again from the dead; he ascended into heaven, and sits at the
    right hand of God the Father Almighty: from thence he shall come to
    judge the quick and the dead.”

    All these assertions of facts you may say are not facts; but if they
    be facts, you are bound to think rightly about them.  You are bound
    to think right about them under penalties, but no more so than as to
    other facts.  You are as much bound to think right as to the fact of
    a God as to any other fact.  But men say, These facts are not so
    certain as the facts of physical science.  We answer, They are more
    certain to us; they are to us facts as certain as the great lights of
    heaven.  We cannot conceive the possibility of ourselves doubting
    them.  We may say, Perhaps there is a God, and we have a right to
    say, The perhaps may become a certainty.  If we think right, and you
    think wrong, you must suffer the consequences.  If a man of science
    puts into your hand a book, and warns you of the danger of infection,
    and you say you don’t believe it, because you are sceptical about the
    teaching, he cannot compel you to believe it, but meantime you will
    suffer; the proof may come in sickness and in death, and you will not
    escape.  And we say, not in anger and bitterness, not in hard
    denunciation of the wrath of God—God forbid that we should do it; but
    we speak in the same tone of warning, and not threatening, and we
    say, If you doubt, remember time is passing, and if you think wrong,
    there is danger of the judgment.  We say, Take heed how you grope in
    the dark and stumble.  We cannot alter the facts if they are facts,
    and they will affect your happiness.  We say, There is in this
    nothing uncharitable, no violation of Freethought any more in
    religion than in science.  We say that the consequences of thinking
    erroneously in religion may be as perilous as the consequences of
    thinking erroneously as to physical facts.  It remains to be shown
    what are the facts of our religion.  All that we say now is, that an
    error about the facts may be fraught with serious consequences, and
    we no more violate Freethought than when a physician warns you.

    Now, then, I trust we have disposed of those prejudices that lay upon
    the threshold of our inquiry, these prejudices against Christianity
    as being opposed to Freethought; for if Freethought means freedom as
    opposed to necessity, religion does not deny it; if Freethought means
    freedom as opposed to authority, religion does not create the
    distinction, it is just as easy to reconcile it with religion as with
    the state of society.  If you mean by Freethought, freedom without
    responsibility as to consequences, there is no such thing either in
    society or in nature, and you have no right to expect it in religion.
    All that we say is, that we are not to expect freedom of thought
    without its responsibility.  Christianity gives us glimpses of the
    means of escape from the operation of material laws in the mercies of
    the loving Father of the human family.



FIRST REPLY
OF
MR. C. BRADLAUGH.
CHRISTIANITY AND FREETHOUGHT.


      [_Delivered in the Free Library_, _Norwich_, _April_ 3, 1871.]

WHEN on the 7th of February the Very Reverend the Dean of Norwich issued
his circular announcing that a series of discourses would be delivered by
“some competent preacher,” “having for their object the vindication and
establishment of the Christian faith,” and “directed against modern forms
of infidelity,” I felt deep interest, not I presume confined to the ranks
of the party which has permitted me to be its advocate upon this
occasion.  The circular was in point of fact an announcement that the
Church of England felt it necessary to challenge and give battle to
modern infidelity; and that having determined that the struggle should be
a real one, it intended to select its best man, and by his mouth to
vindicate and establish the faith, which modern infidelity is doing so
much to undermine, not only in the busy North, but even in the quiet and
church-shadowed capital of East Anglia.

When on my arrival in Norwich I learned that the influence of the Dean
and Chapter of this cathedral city had in no sense been exerted to give
me the sort of opportunity to be heard in reply to their advocate, which
I had a reasonable right to expect, and when I knew that after our
friends making a circuit of the city, in the vain endeavour to hire a
building meet for such an occasion, it was difficult to ensure the use of
the Free Library Hall, I felt that even in Norwich the approved mode of
encountering modern infidelity seemed to be that of free speech for the
church advocate and gagged mouth for the pleader on behalf of heresy.
When I sat in the fine nave of the old cathedral, and weighed the
accessories of choir and organ, intoned litany, and prayer responses
instrumentally accompanied; when I looked at the large number of clergy
present, headed by two bishops, and supported by the wealth and fashion
of the district, I could not but feel that so far as mere scenic effects
went, our side was sadly lacking in such accessories to win adhesion.
When, too, I saw the selected “competent preacher,” the Right Rev. Dr.
Magee, Lord Bishop of Peterborough, whose fame as an eloquent orator, an
erudite and polished disputant, has long since been widely spread, I knew
that our cause laboured under every possible disadvantage save one.  It
had but its truth and justice.  Prestige, talent, skill, fashion, were
allied to serve the Church.  When, moreover, I found that in the local
press religious men, headed by Church of England clergy, sought to excite
prejudices against me before even a word had been spoken on my side, I
could not help thinking that even if defeated in a struggle so unequal it
would leave the Church but little to boast of in its victory.  But I
plead neither for mercy nor favour; fair encounter has been asked and
denied, and I take the risk of battle.  Although we are to-day the
challenged, the Church refuses tourney ground to our party, and we must
contend as best we can.

In treating the subject of “Christianity and Freethought,” in reply to
the address of the Bishop of Peterborough, I am entitled to narrow, and
shall narrow, the question covered by this reply, to one merely between
the Freethinker and the Church of England Christian only.  The litany,
hymns, and prayers which formed the preface to the Bishop’s advocacy are
here fair weapons to use against him.  I do not stand here to-night to
plead against Roman Catholic Christianity, or against Wesleyan,
Independent, or Baptist nonconforming Christianity, nor do I plead
against Unitarian Christianity.  I am here to reply to the Church and
State Christianity, the thirty-nine articles Christianity; to the system
with which the Lord Bishop of Peterborough has identified his brilliant
talents and great powers of speech, and with all the faults and
corruptions of which he must rest burdened so far as this controversy is
concerned.  Here he must not throw aside any one of the three Creeds,
here every line of the Prayer Book affects his teaching.  The
Christianity he must defend is that which the 9 and 10 William IV., cap.
32, maintains; the Christianity by law established.

I pass without comment the fact that the text selected by the Lord Bishop
was not only from the Gospel whose authenticity is doubted by many
Christians, but from a chapter specially regarded as an interpolated one.
On this head, I leave Dr. Magee to debate with Dr. Davidson.  But I am
bound to draw attention to the very extraordinary exposition given of the
contents of this chapter, which we are invited to study.  Dr. Magee says
that the people who were with Jesus, “were doubtless drawn to Christ by
the fame of his miracles,” and that when they left him “it was not that
they doubted of his ability to perform miracles.”  Now, so far as this
chapter is concerned, there is not the smallest particle of reference to
miracles at all, and, therefore, Dr. Magee’s words on this head, and even
admitting his alleged authority, were only so much foundationless
verbiage.  And when Dr. Magee says that this chapter teaches that “the
religion of Christ was not received unquestioningly, even in the case of
his miracles, for in spite of his miracles they ventured to question his
doctrine,” I can only express my deep regret that the many occupations of
the Lord Bishop of Peterborough should have left him without the time to
master the actual contents of the chapter on which his sermon was based.

Bishop Magee further urges that “those who say that Christianity was
received in an ignorant age, are contradicted by the story of
Christianity itself, for many of those who saw his miracles rejected
them.”  I fail to see the contradiction; clearly the Jews were an
ignorant people, they had no scientific literature, no philosophy, no
recorded oratory, not even a language—for the Hebrew is but that which
the captives borrowed from their captors—not a trace of their ancient
tongue having been preserved.

The learned Bishop argues that “the desires, prejudices, and passions of
men largely share in the making of their beliefs.”  But surely he might
have carried this farther still, and have shown—and this even apart from
the case made out by Darwin, Spencer, and Wallace—that race, climate,
soil, food, and mode of life, modify and change beliefs, and that such
beliefs are transmissible and transmitted from parent to child in
similar—though perhaps not in the same—fashion as are features and
frames.  And as in the case of the _physique_ the inherited nature is
modified, improving or deteriorating with the mode of life of the
individual, so also, but in a more varied degree, with his
thought-abilities and his thoughts.  But if it be true, as was so
powerfully urged by the Right Reverend Christian Advocate, that men’s
desires, passions, and prejudices contribute largely to the making up of
their beliefs, what becomes of his Lordship’s subsequent startling
declaration that a man is free to choose what he will believe, “to will
his own belief?”  If there are hereditary predispositions to particular
lines of thought, hereditary predispositions to regard particular topics
from limited stand-points, hereditary predispositions to ignore or accept
unquestioningly particular propositions, I ask, Does not the acquiescence
in such a doctrine fatally impeach the Bishop’s arguments?

On the reference made to the “bigotry of the priest,” I desire in this
lecture to say but little, for I would willingly follow the example of my
Right Reverend antagonist, and entirely avoid those arguments which
savour of mere personal denunciation; but it is hard to forget that
during the 1800 years which, it was boasted, Christianity has endured it
was the policy and practice of priestly bigotry, first in the Church of
Rome, and afterwards, and not less, in the Church of England, to oppose,
and without mercy to seek to crush out all efforts at Freethought.  If
to-day the Lord Bishop of Peterborough lifts his powerful and eloquent
voice in the Cathedral nave, if to-day we are charmed with his suasive
pleading and well-turned periods, we can scarcely forget that it is only
since the Church has been unable to strike with the arm of the law that
she has condescended to plead with the tongue.

I must assume to-night that those of you who are present were also
present at the Bishop’s discourse; but I speak with more freedom as it is
my intention to print this reply together with a _verbatim_ report of the
Lord Bishop’s sermon, so that they may stand side by side.  I regret that
the learned and eloquent advocate of Church Christianity did not think it
right when talking of freedom, necessity, laws of nature, absolute
freedom, and so forth, to favour us with some explanation or definition
to guide us to the sense he intended to convey by their use; as I could
not help fancying that he more than once used the same words with quite
different meanings.  Jonathan Edwards, whom I shall quote to you with
slight modification, thus in effect states the doctrine of
necessity:—“The whole universe exhibits a fixed, certain, and constant
succession of events, which bear to each other the relation of causes and
effects.  This series of causes and effects, as they belong to
unconscious and involuntary subjects, is the physical order of the
material universe: of which order the phenomena are found by observation
to take place according to certain principles, which are usually called
the laws of nature.  This series, as it applies to intelligent and
voluntary agents, consists of the fixed and invariable conjunction of
volitions and voluntary actions with antecedent motives.  In every
instance that we know by experience, or that we can conceive, there is an
invariable and necessary conjunction of motives and volitions.  We cannot
conceive a change in the volition without an antecedent change in the
motive; and the motives remaining the same, the volitions and the
voluntary acts will be correspondent.  We are conscious that we never do,
and never can, perform any voluntary action without a motive.”  While not
adopting entirely the words of Jonathan Edwards, I have given his view of
the doctrine of necessity, a view not contained in the sermon by Bishop
Magee; but each used the phrase laws of nature.  Now, clearly, in the
mouth of the Bishop, law meant the expression of personal will.  The Duke
of Argyll in his “Reign of Law,” says:—“In its primary signification a
‘law’ is the authoritative expression of human will enforced by power;”
but he gives five different senses in which the word “law” is used.
First, “We have law as applied simply to an observed order of facts;
secondly, to that order as involving the action of some force or forces
of which nothing more may be known; thirdly, as applied to individual
forces, the measure of whose operation has been more or less defined or
ascertained; fourthly, as applied to those combinations of force which
have reference to the fulfilment of purpose, or the discharge of
function; fifthly, as applied to abstract conceptions of the mind, not
corresponding with any actual phenomena, but deduced therefrom as axioms
of thought necessary to our understanding of them.  Law, in this sense,
is a reduction of the phenomena, not merely to an order of facts, but to
an order of thought.”  I use law only as denoting observed concurrence or
sequence of events.  When it is said to be a law that water poured from
the glass shall fall to the ground, it is not, or should not, be meant
that the water falls by command emanating from personal will, but only
that this is the recorded experience of all competent observers without
exception.  Jonathan Edwards, relying on Isaiah xlvi. 9 and 10, xiv. 27,
Acts xv. 18, Psalms xxxiii. 10 and 11, and other texts, declared that the
absolute and perfect foreknowledge of God, asserted in the Bible, was
inconsistent with freedom of volition, as it implied the certainty of the
happening of the events foreknown.  The Duke of Argyll says, “There is
nothing to object to or deny in the doctrine that if we knew everything
that determines the conduct of a man, we should be able to know what the
conduct will be.  That is to say, if we knew all the motives which are
brought by external agencies to bear upon his mind, and if we knew all
the other motives which that mind evolves out of its own powers, and out
of previously acquired materials, to bear upon itself; and if we knew the
character and disposition of that mind so perfectly as to estimate
exactly the weight it will allow to all the different motives operating
upon it, then we should be able to predict with certainty the resulting
course of conduct.”  Sir William Hamilton, for I prefer to quote from
antagonists, says, “How the will can possibly be free, must remain to us,
under the present limitation of our faculties, wholly incomprehensible.
We are unable to conceive an absolute commencement, we cannot, therefore,
conceive a free volition.  A determination by motives cannot, to our
understanding, escape from necessitation.  Nay, were we even to admit as
true what we cannot think as possible, still the doctrine of a motiveless
volition would be only casualism; and the free acts of an indifferent,
are, morally and rationally, as worthless as the pre-ordered passions of
a determined will.  How, therefore, I repeat, moral liberty is possible
in man or God, we are utterly unable, speculatively, to understand.”

In dealing with “Freedom as opposed to Necessity,” Dr. Magee declared
“that a man is free to think in one way or another, that it is not
absolutely necessary for him always to think in one way or another.”
This declaration is so obscure, that I should have had to abandon all
attempt to solve the Bishop’s meaning but for the added explanation—viz.,
“that is to say, his thought is not the necessary product of physical
constitution, that his thoughts do not grow out of him, as the blade
grows out of the seed or the flower out of the plant, that it is not
mechanical or necessary, but that a man has the power to choose how he
will think.”  I do not imagine that Dr. Magee used the word “thought” as
limited by Sir William Hamilton; or that he intended in the loose words
he uttered on this head to examine the doctrine as to evolution of
thought put forward by German thinkers.  I assume that the Lord Bishop
regarded brilliancy of speech as preferable to profundity of argument,
and fancied that he would best clear the way for the other Christian
advocates who are to follow him, by piling well-sounding but often
perfectly unmeaning phrases in their pathway.  When the Bishop of
Peterborough urges that thought is not the necessary product of physical
constitution, we answer by opening before him an ethnical map; and
pointing to the Australian as probably the lowest human type, the Bushman
of the Cape, the Esquimaux, the Negro, the Teuton, we ask whether
physical constitution has not something to do with thought-ability?  Nay,
taking a mal-formed cranium or a diseased brain from a lunatic asylum, we
demand further whether the unhealthy and inaccurate thought is not there
alleged in precise terms to be the “necessary product of physical
constitution?”  The assertion “that a man has the power to choose how he
will think,” may be met by the query—When?  Has the old man, partly deaf,
partly blind, with failing memory, the power to choose how he will think?
Has the drunken man, while intoxicated, the power to choose how he will
think?  Has the untaught Norfolk farm labourer with Sir W. Hamilton’s
“Philosophy of the Unconditioned” before him, the power to choose how he
will think in opposition to or in support of Cousin or Kant?  Has the man
to whom Church of England Christianity was taught as a child, whose
intellect was bent and bound while yet pliable and scarce resisting,
whose scope of inquiry has always been restrained by that line where
reason applied becomes blasphemy, has he the power to choose what he will
think?  Let the wretched subterfuges with which even thinkers above the
average—as your Essayists and Reviewers, your Dunbar Heaths, your Drs.
Giles and Irons, your Colensos and your Voyseys—try to reconcile
orthodoxy and Freethought, be examined, and you will have fuller answer
than any I can give.  Has man the power to choose how he will think?  It
may be fairly presumed, that under the words “to think,” Dr. Magee
included all phases of mental activity, perception, recollection of
perception, comparison of perception, judgment, reason, volition.  Any
word by which any condition of mental activity could be fairly described
is, I take leave to submit, included by Dr. Magee under the head of
“thought.”  But is it true that a man can choose his perceptions?  Are
they not first limited by his perceptive ability, and, next, by the range
within which that ability can be exercised, and its development in
exercise?  And if perception be compulsory, if a man cannot refuse to
perceive that which is within the range of his ability, if he cannot
elect to perceive that which is not within its range, then how can the
thought-processes—all related to, and more or less based upon, the
primary perceptions, modified or enlarged as these may afterwards be—how
can these be free?  And will Dr. Magee contend that a man has the power
to choose what he will remember, or what he will forget?

“Christianity,” says Dr. Magee, “teaches that man is free, and terribly
free, to will his own belief;” but the tenth article of Dr. Magee’s own
Church, an article which binds him in this argument, declares that “The
condition of man after the fall of Adam is such, that he cannot turn and
prepare himself, by his own natural strength and good works, to faith and
calling upon God;” nay, the very Litany in which the Lord Bishop took
part proceeds on the assumption that all are miserable sinners, who may
desire to escape, but cannot escape, from sin without God’s help.  And
the ninth article of the Church of England positively declares that every
man “is of his own nature inclined to evil, so that the flesh always
lusteth contrary to the spirit.”  “Where there is absolute freedom,” says
my Lord Bishop of Peterborough, “there cannot be authority.”  But man is
absolutely, “terribly free” to choose his belief, therefore this is a
subject upon which God can have no authority.  This is a point upon which
the power of the Omnipotent is limited.  This being monstrously absurd,
it was natural that the acute advocate for a falling Church should make
some effort to retreat with the honours of war, and he, admitting the
difficulty in religion, says that you find precisely the same difficulty
in politics in fact, and in law, medicine, and morality, as to opinion.
Arguments from analogy are dangerous at best, but here there is no
analogy.  Dr. Magee should at least read the “Contrat Social” of Jean
Jacques Rousseau, and the exhaustive essay on Liberty by John Stuart
Mill.  No one but a madman would contend in politics either for the
absolute liberty of the individual, or for the absolute supremacy of
authority.  Even Guizot’s views of government might have saved Bishop
Magee from an illustration so faulty.  And as to the opinions on law and
medicine which we receive submissively from lawyer and doctor, their
authority is usually the measure of our ignorance.  We swallow the drugs
of Dr. Pangloss, and bow to the dictum of Justice Shallow, it is true;
but the more we know of physiology, the more we learn of jurisprudence,
the less is our acquiescence a mere submission to authority.

As to so much of the Bishop’s sermon as deals with the authority of
revelation and miracles, and which in effect declares that, on the
authority of a revelation not made to me, I may be required to believe in
Jesus Christ as the “only son” of God, while that very revelation tells
me that God had more than one son—(Job i. 6, ii. 1)—and which on the
authority of miracles disbelieved by the mass of the people who are
supposed to have seen them, requires me to believe that Jesus, “very God
of very God,” having descended into hell, afterwards ascended into heaven
with “his body, flesh, and bones, and all things appertaining to man’s
nature,” and there sits at the right hand of God—(Article four and Nicene
Creed)—my answer is a very simple one.  The Bishop’s declaration that
here no tyranny is attempted over Freethought is not a fair and honest
declaration.  The revelation does not submit its proof to Freethought,
but, on the contrary, my Lord Bishop of Peterborough, as the spokesman of
his Church, is bound to tell us in the words of his own horrible creed,
that the man who will not submit to acknowledge the dogmas of his Church,
without doubt shall perish everlastingly.

When the Bishop says that men are continually submitting to authority,
and that if they did not they would never learn anything, he is woefully
inaccurate in his analogy.  It is perfectly true that Humboldt, Lyell,
Huxley, Darwin, Lewes, Spencer, Mill, and such men’s names are names of
authority, and that our experience is supplemented and aided by the
recorded experiences of such men.  But our confidence is not an unlimited
one, their authority is not supreme.  It is limited by the measure of our
own experience in the first place, and by our acquaintance with the
experience of other men than these in the next; both of these, too,
modified and affected by our general intellectual ability.  But all that
our scientific teachers say is, We have learned such and such things, we
learned them in such a fashion, you may if you have leisure and means
verify our experiments, we show you the road we have travelled, we have
mapped and scaled it for you.  But in religion there is no such teaching,
the authority of the Church dominates, denies, and annihilates experience
with a graveyard resurrection for lack of living verification.  Nothing
could more fittingly be denounced as a trick of pulpit advocacy had it
come from the mouth of any other man, than the supposition of an
impossible event in a graveyard as evidence on some equally impossible
doctrine.  It would be far more natural in thought to suppose deception
in the alleged graveyard conjuring, than to suppose anything else.  For
decomposing bodies, fleshless skeletons, forms in which the vital
organisation had been destroyed, and disappearing for days, weeks,
months, or years, to suddenly break through coffins, which living they
would have been unable to burst, to get through a superincumbent mass of
earth, and to stand out in flesh, alive, the blood circulating through
newly manufactured veins—a man who saw this instead of crying “A
miracle,” had far better believe himself subject to delirium, and make
his straightway to the nearest physician for medicine to cool his
disordered brain.  But the Bishop’s case is weaker still; his graveyard
opened 1800 years ago, the men who saw it have ever rejected it, and we
who have not even seen it are required to believe it, and are told, that
in this there is no tyranny over our thought.  When the Bishop talks of
the “soulless and merciless machinery of law,” and declares that “there
are no laws so merciless as those of nature,” we must not forget that by
the very terms of his sermon, and by the creed of his Church, he asserts
all law as the expression of the “personal will” of Deity; and the
soulless and merciless law is, according to the Lord Bishop of
Peterborough, the manifested will of the merciful God who is infinite
soul and love.  Reading to us a portion of the Apostles’ Creed, Dr. Magee
said, All these are assertions of facts, and “you are bound to think
right about them under penalties,” but not more so than about other
alleged matters of fact.  This is untrue.  What other alleged matters of
fact are men required to believe under Act of Parliament?  What other
alleged facts are there which if a man deny he may be sent to gaol, lose
civil rights, be denied the guardianship of his children, and be made an
outlaw in the State?  Where of an alleged fact in astronomy or geology is
your investigation prefaced with the declaration that if you deny it you
shall be sent to a bottomless pit filled with brimstone and fire, and
prepared for the Devil and his angels?




SECOND DISCOURSE
OF THE
BISHOP OF PETERBOROUGH.
CHRISTIANITY AND SCEPTICISM.


ON Wednesday evening, March 29th, the Bishop of Peterborough preached his
second sermon, on “Christianity and Scepticism,” before a large
congregation in the nave of the Cathedral, Norwich.  His text was from
the Gospel according to St. John, xx. 25:—

    “The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord.
    But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of
    the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust
    my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

His Lordship said:

    My subject to-night is “Christianity, and Scepticism,” and I have
    chosen for my text these words of a sceptic, for as such St. Thomas
    has been regarded.  His name has become proverbial in Church history
    for unbelief.  Among the different characters that surround our Lord
    in the Gospel story, he has been regarded as the type of the doubter,
    and he is known as the doubting or the unbelieving Thomas.  And yet
    at first sight we hardly see that he should be so called.  It is
    quite true that he did doubt, and yet his doubt does not at first
    sight seem to be unreasonable, or so very obstinate that he should be
    called by way of distinction, the doubter, the unbeliever.  It was
    not unreasonable.  On the contrary, it was reasonable and natural
    that he should feel some doubt about the resurrection of Jesus
    Christ.  Others had doubts as well as he, and they were called fools
    and slow of heart to believe, and yet they did not inherit the name
    of the doubters.  Again, his disbelief was not of a very obstinate
    kind.  It seemed to have yielded almost instantaneously; and almost
    immediately after he was satisfied, he said more than others of the
    disciples, for he said “My Lord and my God.”  He not only
    acknowledged the resurrection of Jesus, but his divinity, and yet he
    is called Thomas the doubter, the sceptic, and he is rightly so
    called.

    The Christian consciousness did not err when it gave the name,
    because when he uttered the words which I have just read to you,
    “Except I see I will not believe,” he uttered that which is the very
    essence of scepticism.  He suspended his belief upon an absolutely
    impossible condition.  He declared that he would not give his assent
    except on this condition, that it should be made absolutely
    impossible for him to doubt.  What he said to his brother disciples
    amounts to this:—“You tell me that you have seen the Lord, but I
    cannot believe you.  It does not matter to me how strong your
    testimony may be, or how truthful I believe you to be, I will not be
    satisfied till I see it for myself.  I will not accept of any
    testimony but that of my own senses.”  He said his assent was only to
    be had by absolute demonstration, and its being made impossible for
    him to have any doubt.  I say the condition makes all belief
    absolutely impossible.  Belief, in the proper sense of the word, is
    assent on an amount of trust.  If we have absolute demonstration of
    anything, the result is not belief at all, it is demonstration.  What
    we see with the eyes of our body or mind, we don’t properly believe
    in.  We know it.  We have the certainty, not of faith, but of
    science, and where doubt is impossible, belief or faith is
    impossible.  You may have certainty, but it will be the certainty of
    knowledge, it will not be the certainty of faith.  It is quite clear
    that if any man makes it a condition of his assent to truth of any
    kind, that it must first be demonstrated to him as clear as that two
    and two make four; it is clear that is if there be any class of
    truths which cannot be so proved as that two and two make four, the
    man who makes that proof or demonstration a condition of his assent,
    must always be in doubt about those truths, or that class of truths;
    he must always in respect of them be a sceptic or doubter.

    Again, one step further, it is clear that religion or Christianity is
    a truth, or class of truths that cannot be demonstrated
    scientifically.  We cannot prove that there is a God, in the same way
    that we can prove that two and two make four.  We cannot do this,
    because the idea of God is that he is invisible to us.  The first
    utterance of religion is this: I believe in what I cannot see, I
    believe in an invisible God.  Clearly he that says, I don’t believe
    anything I do not see, must be a sceptic or doubter about the truth
    of religion; and therefore it comes to pass, that though religion is
    by no means the only subject, or the only collection of truths that
    cannot be demonstrated, it is the principal one, and it has come to
    pass that though there are sceptics on other subjects, yet for this
    reason a sceptic is understood to be a man who doubts about religious
    subjects; a man who will not believe all the truths of Christianity,
    because they cannot be demonstrated to him in the way he thinks they
    should be demonstrated.  You see now what a sceptic is, and what
    scepticism, is.  By the word sceptic we mean a disbeliever in the
    truths of religion.  A man may disbelieve some of the truths of
    religion and not be a sceptic.  A Jew does not believe in
    Christianity, but he is not a sceptic.  It is because he believes in
    Moses that he does not believe in Christ.  We don’t call the
    Pantheists or the Deists sceptics, because they have a fixed belief.
    Some of their beliefs I think monstrous; they make a greater demand
    on faith than those do who believe in religion.  I think the man who
    says there is no God must believe more contradictions than the man
    who says there is a God.  He has a perfectly monstrous creed, but it
    is a creed.  He is not so much a disbeliever as a misbeliever, for he
    believes in something else than God.  Again, we don’t call a doubter
    a sceptic; a sceptic is a doubter, but the doubter is not necessarily
    a sceptic.  A man may doubt of the truths of religion, only because
    he has not had evidence of the proper kind.  A sceptic asks for
    evidence of an unreasonable kind.  A man may doubt the truth of any
    assertion in history; he may think that all the historians or
    witnesses of the facts are untruthful or ill informed, I should not
    call that man a sceptic; but if a man said, I don’t believe the facts
    you allege in history, because I deny all human testimony; you cannot
    deny that these men lived some time since, and that they may have
    been liars; you cannot give me proof to the contrary: that man I
    should call a sceptic, because in matters historical he was demanding
    an unreasonable amount of evidence.  It is not doubt nor unbelief
    that makes the difference as to the sceptic.  The sceptic is not such
    because he doubts, but on account of the reason of his doubt.  He
    seeks for evidence that it is not proper or reasonable that he should
    have.

    Now I have shown you that there may be doubt without scepticism; and
    on the other hand, there may be belief, or at least assent, upon
    sceptical principles.  It is quite possible that a man may be firmly
    persuaded of some of the truths of religion, and yet be in heart a
    sceptic.  If a man were to say I cannot believe in the existence of a
    God till I have it demonstrated to me as clear as that the three
    angles of a triangle are equal to two right angles, then he is in
    principle a sceptic, because it is clear that if he could not have
    that sort of proof, he would begin to doubt of the existence of God.
    All the time his assent to the existence of God would not have rested
    upon any faith or trust, but upon demonstration.  But when the idea
    of God ceased to be a scientific certainty, it is clear that he would
    be in heart a sceptic.  And there is no doubt that the first belief
    of the apostle Thomas was rendered upon sceptical principles.  He
    said, I will not believe till I put my finger in the print of the
    nails, &c., as if he had said, I will believe nothing but the
    evidence of my own senses.  He believed only because he got this
    evidence of his senses; and mark this, when our Lord gave him what he
    asked, he pronounced no praise on his belief; he did not say to him
    as he said to another, “Blessed art thou, Simon Barjonas, for flesh
    and blood has not revealed this to thee;” but flesh and blood had
    revealed the fact to Thomas, and our Lord said, “Blessed are they
    that have not seen, and yet have believed.”  Thus it is possible to
    doubt without being sceptical, and it is possible to assent, and to
    be still sceptical.  I want you to dwell on this point of belief,
    doubt, and sceptical belief, because there are certain things that I
    am going to point out in this way.  I ask you to test for yourselves
    what I am now going to say, and try the effect upon your own
    feelings.  We cannot demonstrate Christianity.  It is utterly
    impossible that I can give you a demonstration of Christianity, such
    as will leave no possible room for doubt or question.  When those who
    have to follow me have said all they have to say; when they have put
    before you all the evidences of Christianity in all their fulness and
    variety; when they have shown how much more reasonable it is to
    believe than to disbelieve, how many more difficulties there are in
    the way of disbelief than of belief; when all this is done, there may
    still be a doubt on your minds; there will be questions that cannot
    be answered, there will be difficulties that cannot be explained, and
    which no living man can explain.  We can give the highest degree of
    evidence, short of demonstration, for belief in Christ, but we cannot
    demonstrate Christianity.  Now what effect has that announcement on
    your hearts?  Possibly you have heard it with some disappointment.
    You may have come to hear these sermons, expecting to have all your
    doubts removed.  You may say, “I thought you were going to answer all
    the questions with mathematical certainty.”  Our answer is, If we
    could prove with as much certainty that there is a God as that two
    and two make four, or as that this is a book [holding it up], then
    our religion would do you as much good as the knowledge that two and
    two make four.  We would not in that case cultivate the quality of
    faith in your souls, in spite of difficulties and doubts.  We cannot
    demonstrate Christianity, but we can give sufficient reason for our
    belief in it, in spite of doubt.

    What we have to say is this, that the evidences of Christianity are
    weapons to put in the hands of every one of you, with which every man
    and woman may fight out in his or her innermost soul the desolating
    and besieging doubt that from time to time will assault it.  This is
    the real object of evidences of faith, but they are not meant to be
    the outlying works of the citadel of the soul outside of which the
    enemy is compelled to keep.  The shield of faith in God you have to
    carry on your own arm, and with it quench all the fiery darts of the
    wicked one.  Though your own arm tremble, you must carry it to repel
    the darts that are aimed at your own heart.

    There is another word of comfort we have to give you the really
    distressed doubter.  Christianity does not repel the doubter who
    says, I believe, Lord help my unbelief.  What Christianity is
    intolerant of is not doubt, but the spirit of doubt, not unbelief,
    but the demand for unreasonable, impossible conditions of belief.  We
    don’t tell you to stamp out every doubt before you can become a
    Christian.  We say if you believe but one point, you may come to
    believe all the rest, and our message to you is, weary as you may be
    of the load of doubt, the same as that of the Saviour who said “Come
    unto me all you that are weary and heavy laden,” and you will find
    rest to your souls.

    And now I have clearly explained the difference between Christianity
    and Scepticism.  Let us briefly sum up again and show the points of
    collision between Scepticism and Christianity.  We saw last night
    that the question between Christianity and Freethought was a dispute
    as to the nature of liberty, so the question between Christianity and
    Scepticism is a dispute as to the nature of certainty.  Christianity
    offers and gives certainty in the end; Scepticism demands certainty.
    But the certainty of Christianity is partly the certainty of reason
    and partly of faith and of experience.  The certainty demanded by
    Scepticism is the certainty of science only.  The most extreme of
    unbelievers will admit that there is something to be said for
    Christianity; and that it is not unworthy of a hearing as regards its
    evidences.  The men who have believed in Christianity for the last
    1800 years, have not been the greatest fools in the world.  Liebnitz
    and Butler were not drivellers, and not those only, but hundreds and
    thousands of the greatest intellects that humanity has produced.
    They were not such utter fools that any man is entitled to dismiss
    Christianity with a wave of his hand.  On the other hand, every
    reasonable Christian will admit that there is something fair and
    reasonable in some of the objections to Christianity.  But the
    Christian says to the sceptic, It is unreasonable in you to ask that
    every difficulty should be got rid of and every question answered
    before you believe in Christianity.  The sceptic replies, It is
    unreasonable in you to ask me to believe in Christianity till you
    have removed every doubt.  I will ask you which is the reasonable
    demand—the demand of the Christian for faith upon probable evidence,
    or the demand of the sceptic for assent only upon scientific
    demonstration?

    Now in order to argue it fairly and without passion or prejudice, let
    us pass from the subject of religious doubt and let us consider the
    case of doubt in other matters than religion; we all know that men
    have doubted in other subjects.  Try then to recall to your minds the
    first doubt; it was only a little later than the first belief.  The
    first instinct of the child is to believe everything, that everything
    he sees and hears is true.  All appearances to the child are
    realities.  The sun is to him a ball of fire that climbs up the sky,
    the stars are little specks of light that shine at night.  The earth
    is a flat plain.  Very soon the child learns the first great lesson
    of doubt, learns that things are not what they appear to be, learns
    to distrust appearances, learns that under the appearances there is a
    reality.  He gets his first teaching from doubt, and all-important is
    the instinct of doubt.  Very soon is the awakening of the sceptical
    part of the mental nature of man, of his understanding.  The nature
    of the understanding is ever to ask, What and why?  The spirit of
    doubt leads the man from question to question, from step to step,
    till he gets answers to his questions; he goes on from doubt to
    belief, and from belief to doubt, and so on to greater knowledge.
    Thus doubt is the means of knowledge, the instrument of discovery.
    Without the instinct of doubt humanity would be stagnant; with it
    alone humanity progresses.  I do not disparage doubt, I highly value
    it; but doubt is useful on one condition, and one only, that it
    starts from a first belief.  What is the cause of all this doubt and
    pursuit of knowledge?  The supreme instinctive belief, that under all
    appearances there is a reality, that something underlies and causes
    all being; and it is the search for this essence of existence that
    leads the doubter on, the search of this _I am_.  If he had no faith
    in some underlying reality beneath these phenomena, there would be no
    progress, and so doubt is ever seeking for that which is below what
    appears, and yet never reaches it.

    Never yet has science reached to the great reason of all reasons, to
    the great cause of all causes, that underlies all knowledge; and yet
    ever as we seek for it we are advancing in knowledge.  We do not
    reach it, but are ever reaching and passing on, through that which
    lies between us and it.  Doubt is like the mainspring of a watch, it
    is ever seeking to uncoil itself and yet never entirely doing so.
    The result is that the hands of the watch move uniformly because
    there is an attachment of the mainspring.  Cut the attachment, and
    the hands will give one wild whirl and all will be still, and the
    watch useless.  It is just the same with doubt and faith.  Doubt is
    attached to the primary belief that there is a cause of all things,
    but it is ever seeking to detach itself from that belief and never
    succeeds.  The consequence is, that there is a constant and measured
    progress of the human mind.  But we have to consider how much further
    the intellect which has thus been the rule and test of our belief
    might go.  A child not only believes in appearances or facts, but he
    has an instinctive belief in the truthfulness of humanity.  The child
    has not learned that it is not wise to believe everything that is
    said to him.  Was that a happy discovery?  Should we tell a child not
    to believe the word of any human being until he had demonstration
    about it?  Is it wisdom always to distrust human nature?  We are
    always trusting.  Give a logical proof that we are right in any of
    our trusts.  A wife may be false, a child may hate its parents, and a
    man may be robbed by a friend or a confidential servant; yet are we
    to distrust everybody?  If a man were not to trust any one till it
    was proved by demonstration that he ought to do so, he would be put
    in a lunatic asylum; and rightly so, as a man one part of whose
    nature had got diseased and had mastered all the other parts of his
    nature.  I defy any one to say logically that the man may not be
    right, or to give a logical demonstration that it is absolutely
    impossible that his wife, children, and friend were not in a
    conspiracy to wrong him.  There is thus an absolute necessity for
    trust in the ordinary affairs of life, I hope you will see that life
    must be conducted on the principle of faith or trust.

    Let us ask if morality can exist without faith or trust, whether we
    can get a demonstrative or scientific basis for morality itself?  I
    ask this, because those who ask for the destruction of our religion
    talk of the gain to morality.  They say, Sweep away the influences of
    religion and morality will be stronger.  Let us see how morality will
    bear the assaults of scepticism.  Morality is that code or rule of
    action which we follow in questions of right or wrong, or it is that
    code of right and wrong which every man adopts for himself.  To take
    the first definition.  Have we got the universal sense of humanity
    upon any moral question of right or wrong?  If the majority of
    mankind agree with us, can we prove logically that they must always
    be right and the minority wrong?  Again, which morality will we
    have—that of to-day or that of a past generation?  If we cannot
    settle the question by majority or minority, how are we to settle it?
    By asking the opinion of the wise and good.  Before we know the wise
    and good we must know what wisdom and goodness are; and if we know
    what they are, what need have we to look to the wise and good to tell
    us?  Who are the wise and good?  Those who gave good opinions.  Is
    that logical?  Will it stand sceptical inquiry?  If it is not to be
    settled by the appeal to the universal voice of humanity—which is
    simply illogical and preposterous, for this reason, that we are part
    of universal humanity, and if we differ from that verdict it is not
    the verdict of universal humanity, and if we agree with it, we might
    as well have taken our own in the first instance—then man must decide
    for himself what is right and wrong.  What is it decides in a man
    what is right or wrong?  Conscience.  Why must a man submit to the
    decision of his own conscience?  We are told that it is part of our
    moral nature.  What demonstration is there that one part of our
    nature is to yield to another?  Have we any logical demonstration as
    to what we are?  I have a scientific demonstration that I am made of
    carbon, lime, phosphate, and certain other chemicals, but no man of
    science has ever demonstrated spirit or conscience.  Why is it that a
    man is to obey the bidding of one convolution of his brain more than
    another?  It cannot be made as clear as that two and two make four,
    that a man is to do to another man as he would be done unto.  Duty
    and right are words of the spirit, of the soul, but science and logic
    never yet revealed the soul.

    Therefore the man who will believe nothing but what can be
    demonstrated to him, will deny at last the obligation of duty in
    obedience to his sceptical intellect, just as he began with denying
    the existence of God.  How does he get out of this great difficulty?
    By calling up the instinct of faith.  He wills to believe that he is
    something more than a bundle of material elements, that the
    conscience in his soul is something supreme and divine, that the man
    in him is something above the animal; and by an exercise of faith in
    his own higher and better self, he silences the eternal _why_ of the
    sceptical intellect, the serpent more subtile than any other beast of
    the field, which if it had its way would make man a beast.

    There is only one more question to which I have to call your
    attention.  Having shown you that the sceptical intellect is not the
    only judge, having shown you that there are domains of human
    knowledge and human life into which, if it comes at all, it must come
    as the servant and not as the master; having shown you that
    scepticism is really nothing else than the intrusion of the mere
    understanding into the province of the soul and the spirit, it
    remains to ask, Is religion, is Christianity, one of those subjects
    on which the understanding is not to be the only judge, but on which
    the spirit and soul and heart of man have something to say about his
    belief?  Surely then if Christianity be what it professes to be, a
    life, like all human and temporal life, it must be conducted upon a
    principle of faith or trust.  If we cannot live our ordinary human
    life without trust, where we cannot have certainty, neither can we
    live the spiritual life without trust, where we can neither prove nor
    demonstrate; then if we think of this life in close relationship with
    the divine and the infinite life, can it possibly be otherwise than
    that out of the meeting place of those two mysteries there shall grow
    mystery and difficulty?  All that Christianity requires is, not that
    man shall not ask for reasonable proof, but that we should not deal
    with it in a different way from that in which we deal with human life
    and morality.  We don’t ask you in religion to believe without
    evidence, but to require large evidence.  Now my friends, still
    remember when we ask you to believe before you see all, it is that
    you may experience all.  Christianity has a certainty, but it comes
    not as the proof, but as the reward of faith.  There is a
    demonstration of the spirit, an evidence of divine life, in the soul
    of the Christian, that he cannot demonstrate to others, because it is
    as invisible as his own soul and spirit, and yet it fills the inner
    core of the spirit—it is the strengthener of the spirit.
    Christianity is a great experiment, a probable experiment, a
    reasonable experiment, but still it is an experiment, and you may try
    it.  If you have a simple and earnest desire to ascertain its truth,
    try it, casting aside the trivial interests that the profligate man
    has in the disproof of it.  Try it and see if there does not come
    into your soul that conviction not created by science, but springing
    from the inner life of the soul, that shall be like a well of water
    springing up to everlasting life.  As in life so in religion,
    “blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”



SECOND REPLY
OF
MR. C. BRADLAUGH.
CHRISTIANITY AND SCEPTICISM.


ON Tuesday evening, April 4th, Mr. Bradlaugh delivered his second lecture
on “Christianity and Scepticism,” before a very crowded audience, in the
Free Library.  He commenced by observing:

In continuing this course of lectures, I naturally follow the same
wording of the subjects as that taken by the Bishop of Peterborough; and
I may say that those who charge me with misquoting the Bishop, will
probably think differently when I say that I have taken fair pains to be
accurate in my representation.  I took careful and almost verbatim notes,
and I hold in my hand a transcript of the notes of an independent
shorthand writer, and where these have disagreed, which has been very
seldom, I have checked them by so much of the lecture as appeared
summarised in the _Daily Press_.  It appeared to me to be accurate, and I
think there was no ground for saying that I misrepresented the Bishop.
You who think so, had better leave that for him to say, if he thinks it
necessary.  He took the instance of Thomas as that of a representative
Sceptic.  He was good enough to tell us that the unbelief of Thomas was
not unreasonable, that, on the contrary, it was reasonable and natural
that he should feel some doubt about the resurrection of Jesus Christ.  I
propose to examine that position.  Was it reasonable that Thomas should
doubt?  Thomas was a disciple selected by Jesus.  He had been present at
the whole of the miracles of Jesus.  If the Bishop’s case be true, he had
seen Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead, he had heard Jesus say he came to
die, and to rise again; and I ask you, if it was reasonable for Thomas to
doubt after he had seen a hundred miracles performed, then how much more
reasonable for me to doubt?  I have never seen any miracles.  But, said
the Bishop, Thomas is a fair example of the Sceptic, for Thomas said, I
will not believe unless I see, &c.  This, the Bishop said, is the very
essence of scepticism.  Now I don’t know where my Lord Bishop got his
notion of scepticism; I am sure that there is no writer on the side of
the party which permits me to speak for it, who defines scepticism in
that manner.  I have here the explanation of Buckle, which I take as that
of a man occupying a position independent of the prejudices attaching to
my extreme heresy.  “By Scepticism, I merely mean hardness of belief, so
that an increased Scepticism is an increased perception of the difficulty
of proving assertions, or, in other words, it is an increased application
and an increased diffusion of the laws of evidence.  This feeling of
hesitation and of suspended judgment, has in every department of thought
been the invariable preliminary to all the intellectual revolutions
through which the human mind has passed, and without it there could be no
progress, no change, no civilisation.  In physics it is the necessary
precursor of science, in politics of liberty, in theology of toleration.”
Now I take leave to say that there is no sceptical writer, neither
Hobbes, nor Hume, nor Locke, nor Berkeley, no sceptical writer either
upon my own side or upon the side of theology, unless you take the
ravings of some wretched madman, who defines Scepticism as my Lord Bishop
defined it.  I say it was either a false definition within the knowledge
of the Bishop, or that Dr. Magee was imperfectly acquainted with the
views he proposed to answer.  The definition conveys a false notion of
Scepticism, which is really but a word for investigation.  The Bishop
draws a distinction, and a correct distinction, between knowledge and
belief, and in that very distinction he annihilated his own definition of
Scepticism.  He said, and rightly, When once the senses have taken
cognizance of any phenomenon, that is no longer a matter of belief but a
matter of knowledge.  If I sensate any condition of existence, I have
passed the stage of belief and arrived at the stage of knowledge.  I now
come to a marvellous position—marvellous as advanced by a bishop—viz.,
that religion or Christianity must be taken as incapable of scientific
demonstration; because, if that be true, what becomes of the arguments of
the Paleys, of the Pye Smiths, and of the Gillespies?  Are the volumes of
proofs of the existence of Deity all waste paper?  What becomes of the
huge mass yearly issued from the press to prove the truth of
Christianity?  I take it that in the opinion of the Bishop every one of
these has hitherto failed, for he says we cannot demonstrate the
existence of a Deity or the truth of the Christian religion so as to
leave no doubt.  A demonstration so complete that it leaves no doubt, is
admitted to be impossible; that is an admission for which I thank the
Lord Bishop, because it is a justification to doubters.  We have two
admissions, one that the doubt of Thomas is a reasonable doubt, and
another, that Christianity under no circumstances can be rendered free
from doubt.  I will thank you to bear those two positions in mind.  The
Bishop says we cannot demonstrate the existence of God, and I am inclined
to accept his position, but he gives reasons of the strangest description
to justify his conclusions.  He says we cannot prove the existence of God
because he is invisible.  Does the Bishop mean that only the things
cognised by sight can be proved?  Is it true that he believes in an
invisible God?  What say the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church?  They
say that Jesus, with body, flesh, and bones, ascended to heaven.  Were
these invisible?  The Bishop believes what is pictured in the Bible.
Does the Bible teach an invisible God?  We read in the twenty-fourth
chapter of Exodus, 9, 10, 11: “Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and
Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; and they saw the God of
Israel; and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a
sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.  And
upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand; also they
saw God, and did eat and drink.”  I want to know if this God is an
invisible God?  I want to know whether the Bishop is on this point an
infidel, and whether he here disbelieves the Bible?  The Bible says that
God is not invisible.  Which are we to believe?—the Bishop, the Bible, or
the Thirty-nine Articles?  We are forbidden to deny either the Bible or
the Thirty-nine Articles under penalty of prosecution.  The Bishop said a
Jew is not a sceptic, and the reason given is certainly equally a
marvellous one, for he said the Jew believes in Moses, and therefore
cannot believe in Jesus.  Is it logical that any body who believes in
Moses cannot believe in Jesus?  Surely the Bishop contradicted himself,
for it is to Moses and the prophets he appeals.  It is not true, even
from the Church of England stand-point, that a man disbelieves in Jesus
because he believes in Moses.  It is not true that if I believe in the
authenticity of the Pentateuch, it necessarily excludes my belief in the
Gospel, and yet this is the reasoning indulged in by the able and learned
confuter of modern infidelity.  The Bishop said that the Deist and the
Pantheist are not sceptics, for they have a belief, nor, he said, are
even those sceptics who say there is no God.  I never read, except in
tracts and sermons, and religious essays, of any who say there is no God.
Some persons talk about the fools who say there is no God, and bishops
preach against them, but an Atheist does not say there is no God.  The
Atheist says the term “God” conveys no idea to his mind.  I have never
yet heard a definition of God from any living man, nor have I read a
definition by dead or living man that was not self-contradictory.  I
don’t deny the word “God,” because I don’t know anything about its
meaning.  Denial like affirmation must refer to some proposition that is
understood.  But the moment you tell me you mean the God of the Bible, or
the God of the Koran, or the God of any particular church, I am prepared
to tell you that I deny that God.  So long as the term means your absence
of knowledge as to particular phenomena, and represents the undiscovered,
I am not “fool” enough to say there is no God; and I say the Bishop
should have known that no modern Atheist ever propounded such a
proposition to any one.  It is when you tell me of God distinct from the
universe, creating the universe different from himself, and adding to his
own existence, that I am compelled to deny that God.  The Bishop said the
sceptic is not only one who denies, but one who asks for evidence of an
unreasonable kind.  Suppose myself; am I a sceptic as to the Bible,
according to the Bishop’s notion?  When I examine the Bible, I find it is
admitted that the common version is so bad that a better is now in hand.
I find when I refer to the sources of this version there are only three
sources—the Hebrew, the Samaritan, and the Septuagint.  When I examine
the Septuagint I find the Protestant writers such as Fulke and Whittaker,
writing against Bellarmine and others, declaring that the Septuagint is
corrupt from beginning to end.  Dr. Irons says no one knows where the
so-called Septuagint version was written, when it was written, nor by
whom it was written, and it is clearly the work of different generations.
When I examine the Greek of the Septuagint as against the Hebrew, I find
words and verses in the one that are not in the other.  As a sceptic is
it unreasonable for me to ask the Bishop how he knows that one is better
than the other?  When I go to the Hebrew the difficulty is still greater.
I say that not even the Bishop knows enough of the Hebrew to guide us
with reasonable explanation.  It is not enough to say that mere ignorant
infidels do not know it.  I find Spinoza, writing 200 years ago,
declaring that Hebrew was a language utterly dead, that its grammars and
lexicons were lost, that time, the great consumer, had blotted out the
meaning of many words from the memory of man.  Suppose that I have
recourse to those professing some knowledge of Hebrew.  Gesenius,
Bellamy, Parkhurst, Newman, Eichorn, Bresslau, Ginsburg, give me
different meanings for many of the same words on important points of
theology.  How am I to be satisfied?  What objections will be reasonable?
Suppose I try to be content with the ordinary Hebrew version, what then?
I find that it is a version written with points, which points have not
existed more than 1250 or 1300 years; and the text itself is of two
characters.  That which is written is not always read, and that which is
read is not written.  I find a clergyman of the Church like Dr. Irons
admitting that the traditional reading of the Hebrew text is often of
more value than the text.  I find Christians saying this Hebrew is an
ancient language, and when I try to trace it I find that before 2500
years back there is no trace of it at all.  Moses could not have written
in the Hebrew we have, for what to-day we call the Hebrew did not then
exist.  Who is to decide on this point as to the reasonableness of my
scepticism?  Am I to decide or my Lord Bishop?  Let us consider this a
little more.  We have a Samaritan, a Septuagint, and Hebrew Bible, but in
the Samaritan we have only the Pentateuch, and I find words and verses in
the Samaritan not in the Septuagint, and not in the Hebrew, and I find
words and verses in the Hebrew and Septuagint, which are not in the
Samaritan.  Is it unreasonable for me to ask how so many blunders have
got into this book, if it contains a revelation from God?  Then I come to
try to get a clue from the Gospels, and I find again that no man knows
when they were written, where they were written, or by whom they were
written.  Clergymen of the Church have invented arguments from the first
century fathers for the existence of the Gospels.  I used to believe that
such testimony existed; I could not suppose that writers like Dr. Paley
had invented testimony of the fathers, but when I went to the great
libraries to verify authorities, and I found that he manufactured
evidence, I ask, was I, as a sceptic, a reasonable man in challenging the
Church?  The Bishop says a Sceptic is not to be attacked because he
doubts, but because of his reason for the doubt.  I doubt because I
cannot help it.  Is that a good reason or not?  Is the Church entitled to
say “It is not true, you might believe if you like?”  And mark, the
Bishop had the audacity to declare that Christianity is not intolerant of
the doubter, but of the spirit of doubt.  The Church used to burn the
doubter, and then it burnt his books, and locked him up in prison.  It
now gathers 3,000 people into the nave of the Cathedral to hear the
attack on the doubter, and refuses to grant the use of any place for a
reply.  It is not intolerant to the doubter, it is only intolerant of the
spirit of doubt!  I learned from the Bishop that a man might be a
religious believer, and at the same time a sceptic, and in explaining
this he used language of an astounding character.  He said if a man were
to say, _I_ cannot believe in the existence of God till I have it
demonstrated to me as clearly as that the three angles of a triangle are
equal to two right angles, then he is in principle a sceptic, because if
he had not that sort of proof, he would begin to doubt of the existence
of God; all this time his assent to the existence of God would have
rested on a sceptical foundation.  This was one of the most marvellous
pieces of nonsense that any one could talk.  How can any one, while
assenting to God’s existence, say, I cannot believe in God till it is
proved to demonstration?  He makes the true believer commence by saying
he cannot believe in God till it is proved.  If anyone here had used that
language, I should have said that he did not understand what he was
talking about; but when a Bishop, a learned Bishop, the paragon of
eloquence and logic, brought here as more competent than your own Bishop,
talks such nonsense, how am I to reply?  Let us take a startling contrast
which the Bishop thought right to give us.  He contrasted Thomas the
doubter with Simon Peter the believer.  I have read the Bible a little,
and I think that of all the cowardly rascals of whom I ever read, the
greatest rascal was Simon Peter.  He was called under great advantages;
he had been out fishing, and he caught nothing, and the Lord helped him
to a good catch of fish; Simon Peter’s wife’s mother was cured of a
fever; Simon Peter was with Jesus when he fed the people with a few
loaves and fishes, and he took part in the collection of the fragments.
He was present at the transmigration.  It was to him that Jesus said, “To
thee I give the keys of the kingdom of heaven.”  Simon Peter was with the
Lord all through his life; and when Jesus came to trouble, he was the
first who abandoned him and denied him, even with oaths, “I know not the
man;” and that Peter is the model of faith whom the Bishop presents to
you.  Of the two I rather prefer Thomas to Peter.  Certainly Peter came
back to the Church when he caught more fish.  When Jesus rose from the
dead, Peter did not or would not know him, but when Jesus said “Throw in
your net,” and he did so, and caught more fish, then he knew Jesus
directly.  I will ask what lesson the Lord Bishop meant to convey by the
contrast between those two?  In what sort of way is Peter put in
contrast?  Simon Peter was true enough when any profit was to be got by
it; he ran away when danger came.  This is the model which the Lord
Bishop puts before you to copy.  But Dr. Magee said that Christianity
could not be demonstrated.  Christian evidences were of some use as
weapons when believers were exposed to assaults on their faith.  If I
thought he had intended to preach a comic sermon instead of a serious
one, I could have heartily laughed at this.  He says that the evidences
of Christianity are weapons to put in the hands of every man and woman
when his or her innermost soul is assailed by the enemy with desolating
doubt.  Is it true that God permits an enemy to reduce man to the level
of the beast, and to be continually besieging the soul of man?  Is it
true that the subtle devil tempts man from the faith?  If it be true,
then the devil exists either because God cannot help it, or will not
prevent it; and if he exists because God is powerless to prevent, then
God is not omnipotent; if God wills it, then God consents to—nay, strives
to procure man’s damnation.  But, says the Bishop, Christianity does not
repel the doubter, and he even admits the utility of doubt, subject only
to one condition.  Before I deal with the Bishop’s condition, permit me
to quote what Buckle has said on the effect of doubt, and I quote him
because he stands in a position entitling him to the attention of the
extreme heterodox, as well as of the extreme orthodox.  He says:

    “Although the acquisition of fresh knowledge is the necessary
    precursor of every step in social progress, such acquisition must
    itself be preceded by a love of inquiry, and therefore by a spirit of
    doubt, because without doubt there will be no inquiry, and without
    inquiry there will be no knowledge, for knowledge is not an inert and
    passive principle which comes to us whether we will or no; but it
    must be sought before it can be won; it is the product of great
    labour, and, therefore, of great sacrifice.  And it is absurd to
    suppose that men will incur the labour and make the sacrifice for
    subjects respecting which they are already perfectly content.  They
    who do not feel the darkness, will never look for the light.  If on
    any point we have attained to certainty, we make no further inquiry
    on that point, because inquiry would be useless or perhaps dangerous.
    The doubt must intervene before the investigation can begin.  Here,
    then, we have the act of doubting as the originator, or at all events
    the necessary antecedent of all progress.  Here we have that
    scepticism, the very name of which is an abomination to the ignorant,
    because it disturbs their lazy and complacent minds; because it
    troubles their cherished superstitions; because it imposes on them
    the fatigue of inquiry; and because it rouses even sluggish
    understandings to ask if things are as they are commonly supposed,
    and if all is really true which they from their childhood have been
    taught to believe.  The more we examine this great principle of
    scepticism, the more distinctly shall we see the immense part it has
    played in the progress of European civilisation.  To state in general
    terms, what in this introduction will be fully proved, it may be said
    that to scepticism we owe that spirit of inquiry which, during the
    last two centuries, has gradually encroached on every possible
    subject, has reformed every department of practical and speculative
    knowledge; has weakened the authority of the privileged classes, and
    thus placed liberty on a surer foundation; has chastised the
    despotism of princes; has restrained the arrogance of the nobles, and
    has even diminished the prejudices of the clergy.  In a word, it is
    this which has remedied the three fundamental errors of the olden
    time, errors which made the people in politics too confiding, in
    science too credulous, in religion too intolerant.  We have thus seen
    the rise of that scepticism which in physics must always be the
    beginning of science, and in religion must always be the beginning of
    toleration.  There is, indeed, no doubt that in both cases individual
    thinkers may by a great effort of original genius, emancipate
    themselves from the operation of this law.  But in the progress of
    nations no such emancipation is possible.  As long as men refer the
    movements of the comets to the immediate finger of God, and as long
    as they believe that an eclipse is one of the modes by which Deity
    expresses his anger, they will never be guilty of the blasphemous
    presumption of attempting to predict such supernatural appearances.
    Before they could dare to investigate the causes of these mysterious
    phenomena, it was necessary that they should suspect that the
    phenomena themselves were capable of being explained by the human
    mind.  In the same way until men are content in some degree to bring
    their religion before the bar of their own reason, they never can
    understand how it is that there should be a diversity of creeds, or
    how any one can differ from themselves without being guilty of the
    most enormous and unpardonable crime.”

Chillingworth says, “Reason gives us knowledge, while faith only gives us
belief, which is a part of knowledge, and is, therefore, inferior to it.
It is by reason, and not by faith, that we must discriminate in religious
matters, and it is by reason alone that we can distinguish truth from
falsehood.”  He solemnly reminds his readers that in religious matters no
one ought to be expected to draw strong conclusions from imperfect
premises, or to credit improbable statements upon scanty evidence; still
less, he says, was it ever intended that men should so prostitute their
reason as to believe with infallible faith that which they are unable to
prove with infallible arguments.  The Bishop, agreeing in the utility of
doubt, which he expressed in language nearly as strong as that of Buckle,
says there is one condition without which doubt cannot be useful, and
this condition, being in truth an entire hindrance to doubt, is utterly
unreasonable and impossible.  He says the condition on which doubt can be
accepted as useful is that it starts on a certain basis of religious
belief.  Now a doubt so based is only a fictitious doubt, a sham doubt, a
hypocritical pretence of doubt.  When the Bishop said it was possible to
have a doubt based on belief in the proposition to be doubted, he said
what he could not defend on any platform where reply was permitted.  I
feel that in talking of a man in his absence I may be under the
imputation of saying harsh things.  The manner in which this debate has
gone on is not one of my fashioning.  The Church has taken the pains to
give lectures in the Cathedral where no reply could be offered; but I
promise you that I will endeavour to carry the war into Peterborough, and
see whether the Bishop will attempt an answer under the shadow of his own
cathedral.

I have now to complain of something still worse than that the Bishop
should have forgotten his Bible, entirely ignored the Thirty-nine
Articles, and occasionally in the hurry of rapid speech contradicted his
previous sentences.  All these are matters at which in even an
extraordinary man burdened with a bishop’s dignity, we need not wonder at
all; but when we find him blundering in metaphysics, when we find him
making mistakes which a man versed in the merest student’s rudiments of
Mill or the Scotch and German metaphysicians, would not make, when we
find the Bishop so blundering, either wilfully or ignorantly, it puts me
in a position of extreme difficulty.  He distinguished between the
Sceptic and the Christian, and said the Christian had a faith in
something underlying all phenomena.  The Christian’s faith is nothing of
the kind.  I will explain my position, and then that of the Christian.
The position of the Naturist is that there is only one existence.  I can
only know that existence as conditioned, as phenomenal.  What we call
“things” are modes or conditions of existence, known or distinguished
from other conditions by various characteristics or qualities; we only
know substance or existence as conditioned.  We only know the phenomenal
or the conditioned.  We affirm one existence, and that all we know is
condition of that one existence.  But that is not the Christian’s
position.  The Christian says there are two existences, the one what he
calls the material universe, and the other the Deity, distinct and
differing in essence, who is the creator of that universe out of nothing,
and who can be the destroyer of it.  When the Bishop tried to make these
two opinions into one, he either did not know what he was talking about,
or he supposed that the people to whom he was talking had not the time to
study.  The Bishop defined faith as trust or assent, and he declared that
not only in religion but in all other matters we have faith.  He said,
for example, and his illustration appeared to me most unfortunately
chosen, that we trusted in our wives, and children, and friends, that it
was possible that our wives might all the time be unfaithful, our
children unloving, and our friends treacherous.  These are not the words,
but they give the exact sense of the words.  Now I will explain the
difference between religious faith and the ordinary faith.  Our ordinary
faith in one another in every-day life is a confidence founded upon our
own experience and the experience of others; and it is because we find
the unfaithful wives are the fewest in number, and the treacherous
friends the fewest in number, that we trust in our wives and our friends.
But religious faith is something entirely different, it is not only not
founded on experience, but it contradicts experience.  Religious belief
is the prostration of the intellect; ordinary every-day trust is the
result of the exercise of the intellect.  The Bishop spoke of morality.
He said morality was based upon faith, and he asked, supposing you did
not go to faith, where were you to get your standard of morality?  What
is morality, the Bishop did not tell you.  With me that is moral which
tends to the greatest happiness of the greatest number, which inflicts
the least injury on any.  What is moral the Bible does not tell you, the
Thirty-nine Articles do not tell you, the Creeds do not tell you, the
Nicene Creed does not tell you, the Apostles’ Creed does not tell you.
They say that it is moral not to steal, but you must not say this with
the Bible in your hand, where you find a thief protected and rewarded.
And as to adultery, David got to heaven though he committed adultery, and
planned the most treacherous murder of the dishonoured husband.  It is
moral to speak the truth, but Jacob, who lied, got to heaven, and was
loved by God, while his brother was hated, though he appears to have been
the better man of the two.  What is the morality of the Athanasian Creed?
You are to believe in a Father, a Son, and a Holy Ghost, three persons in
one God, and if you do not believe in this, without doubt you are to
perish everlastingly.  Is that your morality?  He that believes and is
baptised, shall be saved.  Is faith in Christ morality?  Here it is moral
to eat beefsteaks, but on the banks of the Ganges it is immoral.  Where
will you get your guide to morality?  No one man, no one book, no one
church, can give it you.  Your guide to morality can only be got by
gathering from the wisdom, and availing yourself of the experience of the
greatest minds of past ages and the present times, and thus you may learn
to be moral.  I don’t speak to annihilate the Bible.  No man can
annihilate a book.  If Moses or Isaiah wrote, no man can sweep their work
away from the page of history, but I say that no book should dominate the
world.  I am a sceptic, for I deny the absolute authority of one book to
dominate all people.  I find among the Brahmins, among the Buddhists,
among the Chinese and Japanese, phases of human truth which in other
lands are almost entirely forgotten, which your Jew books do not contain.

If you want to know how I would make a code of morality, I would make it
as you would a bouquet of flowers: from one plot in a garden you cull the
rose, from another other flowers of sweet perfume, from another the
flowers of brilliant hue, until colour blending with colour and fragrance
aiding, your bouquet presents beauty to the eye and sweet perfume to the
scent; so I would take from Shakspere the fruit of his wide grasping
brains, from Swift his brilliant wit, from Montesquieu his great power of
generalisation, from Voltaire his grand irony, from Rabelais his biting
thought, from Spinoza his grand logic, from John Locke his wise reason, I
would take from Dr. Magee his eloquence, and bring them and the thoughts
of the world’s poets and philosophers together.  I would make my bouquet
of thought.  I say the Bible is not a book to cast away, but to place on
our shelves beside the Koran, the Vedas, and other old-world books, to
mark how the thought of the world has grown.  We know that religion has a
hold upon the mass, but I claim for scepticism a higher morality.  The
belief in religion is the wearing the old clothes of a former age, the
swaddling clothes adopted in the childhood of humanity, but scepticism is
the bursting out from these old swaddling clothes.  It is the effort of
buried brain to burst its grave and stand out alive for human
deliverance.




THIRD DISCOURSE
OF THE
BISHOP OF PETERBOROUGH.
CHRISTIANITY AND FAITH.


ON Thursday evening, March 30th, 1871, the nave of the Cathedral,
Norwich, was much crowded with the citizens of all classes, to hear the
third sermon of the Bishop of Peterborough, on “Christianity and Faith.”
Before the sermon the Bishop prayed specially for the conversion of the
infidels present.  He selected his text from the Gospel according to St.
John, xx. 29,

    “Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

His Lordship said:

    Last night, I endeavoured to show you what scepticism is, and what it
    leads to.  We saw that scepticism is not simply doubt, but that it is
    doubt of a particular kind.  It is that state of doubt which arises
    from insisting on referring every question for solution to one part,
    and one only, of our nature, to the sceptical understanding.  It is
    that state of doubt which arises from refusing to believe until it
    has been made scientifically and mathematically impossible to doubt.
    And we saw what this leads to; we saw that it necessarily leads to
    the destruction of all belief properly so-called, to the destruction
    of every kind of assent, except assent to scientific and demonstrated
    facts; that it puts an end to all belief which rests upon moral
    certainty, as distinguished from scientific certainty, and therefore
    it puts an end to all belief that appeals to any part of our nature
    except the understanding; all belief with which the heart and spirit
    of man have anything to do; all belief of the higher and nobler kind;
    all belief that arises out of the higher and nobler part of our
    nature; all belief that is in character and essence moral, and all
    the higher and nobler life which arises out of such belief.  We saw
    that scepticism was essentially fatal to morality; that there is no
    scientific demonstration of morality, and that in order to be moral
    it is necessary to exercise an act of faith; that morality cannot
    justify itself to the sceptical understanding; as we saw that as
    religion is not capable of scientific demonstration, as it does
    appeal to something else than the logical faculty, as it does appeal
    to man’s heart and spirit, it cannot justify itself to the sceptical
    intellect; and that scepticism is necessarily as fatal to religion as
    it is to morality, and to all belief except scientific belief.

    I hope you saw what a waste of time it is to endeavour to satisfy the
    consistent sceptic; we have absolutely nothing in common.  It is
    impossible that religion can silence scepticism, unless it ceases to
    be religion.  It is just as absurd to object to religion that it is
    not science, as to object to science that it is not religion.  It is
    the wisest course we can take in dealing with sceptics to begin, and
    for the most part to end the discussion, by asking this plain
    question: You tell us that you are sceptical, and you demand all your
    doubts to be satisfied before you believe; we ask you, Do you believe
    in anything, and if so, what do you believe in the proper sense of
    the word?  Do you assent to anything on trust?  Do you believe in
    anything you cannot demonstrate?  If so, you have no right to say to
    us that we should not believe a religion.  If you say, I believe in
    nothing but what can be demonstrated, then we have nothing to answer,
    we must leave you to be refuted by the common sense of mankind, and
    by every act of your daily life which is based on trust.  It would
    save a vast deal of wasted time were we to take this course.  Let me
    advise all Christians; before you allow a sceptic to put you to the
    proof, ask, What is it you believe?  Do you believe anything in the
    matter of religion? and if so, remember you should not bring any
    objection against our faith which applies equally to yours.  We
    cannot allow of faith for all the difficulties of your belief, while
    you ask demonstration for all the difficulties of our belief.  Faith
    for both, or faith for neither; but not faith for one and
    demonstration for the other.  We seek not to get a logical victory
    over our opponents; that is the poorest of all ambitions; but we
    recommend such a course for this reason, that you may see that the
    very same objections which are brought against our belief, lie
    against any belief, and all belief, and so be strengthened in your
    faith; for after all man must believe something.  There is a
    necessity of belief in the soul of man.  We ask for the sake of our
    opponents, if we throw them back upon considering the basis of their
    own belief, and ask them if they are not unconsciously to themselves
    in some degree believers while they call themselves sceptics?

    And now, while I have endeavoured thus clearly to show you that
    religion, like morality, has no answer, properly speaking, to
    scepticism—but that it rests upon an act of faith in answer to what
    is ever saying, How, what, and why?—let us come back then to that
    point at which we left it last night.  That is the point at which we
    saw, that in order to be moral, and to believe in morality, we must
    exercise an act of faith, we must trust in ourselves, in our own
    higher and better nature.  It must be an act of faith which never can
    justify itself to the understanding.  Submit the understanding to the
    soul, elevate the conscience above the merely logical and questioning
    faculty; say by the exercise of a higher faculty, say by the power of
    that instinct of faith, which is given us for the very purpose that
    we may rise above the instinct of doubt—say, I know that this is
    right and this is true, while I have a soul.  There is in the heart
    of every human being an eternal opposition between the merely
    sceptical understanding and the spiritual faculty, between that which
    demonstrates and that which believes, between the mind which we share
    with the animal, and the soul which we Christians believe we
    specially derive from God; and these two are opposite the one to the
    other.  That in us which says, This must be so, this shall be so so,
    is a higher faculty than that which in us inquires, Why is it so, how
    can this be so?  And that act of faith in us on which our morality,
    our religion, and our higher forms of being rest, is that by which we
    assert the supremacy of the one above the other.  We are not always
    conscious, nor often conscious, of this contradiction in our
    innermost nature, of the opposition between the spiritual part of our
    nature and the mere fleshly man.  There are times, however, when we
    feel conscious of it.  There are times when to each one of us comes
    some dire and deadly temptation, when we find ourselves in the
    presence of some coveted object, when the animal craves for its
    gratification, and the spirit trembles at the thought of the unlawful
    thing; and then we find the serpent intellect pleading in an
    ingenious way that there is no law against it.  I say, there is not
    in this church a single man or woman who has not felt the eternal
    opposition between the spirit and the flesh; who has not felt that
    his deliverance from temptation, the mastery over the evil thing that
    was leading him on to evil, lies not in any logic or demonstration,
    but in the submission of the logical faculty to the spiritual, in
    saying to the animal part of our nature, Be silent, submit, I will be
    righteous, I will not sin.  I say, in that moment we do become
    conscious of the opposition that exists between the intellectual and
    spiritual part of our nature.  It is then that the great billows of
    our souls are ebbing and flowing in the agony of our temptation.  It
    is at that time we feel the innermost parts of our being, the
    fountains of the great deep broken up; and then the spirit says, I
    will be righteous.  And though we are not conscious of it, though the
    animal has been accustomed to obey the man, there is this secret
    opposition between the two.  It is in the nature of what oculists
    tell us.  They tell us, that the image of an object is inverted on
    the retina of the eye, and that it is only by constant habit of
    correction of the impression that we see things truly.  So there is
    the natural inversion of the nature of the man; the animal gets the
    upper hand in the man, and it is only by the unconscious training of
    the man in Christian society that the supremacy of the moral part of
    the man is strongly established; and we are not conscious of the act
    of faith, but still that act of faith underlies all morality, and it
    is true in morality as in religion, “The just shall live by faith.”
    There is no righteous deed that any one of us has done that we did
    not do by virtue of this act of faith; “The just shall live by
    faith.”

    Now let us pass on to another question, for if the whole moral and
    religious life is based upon the act of faith, there doubtless must
    be a good reason for it.  We Christians believe that God made us so
    for a good reason.  Can we see any reason why we should live our
    moral life by faith?  That faith is not a mere assent to
    propositions, it is trust in a person, in a nature, a belief that we
    are better, nobler, than our understanding would persuade us we are.
    Every time this opposition which I have described arises within a
    man, he is given a choice; he has to pass through a probation, or a
    test as to whether he will or will not believe in his better self,
    whether he will rise up to the idea of his spiritual nature, or sink
    down to the depths of his animal nature.  There is a trial for him,
    and a discipline in the trial, and a culture and a growth of his
    moral nature if he stands firm in the trial.  We cannot believe, in
    such a moment of trial, in our nobler and better selves, without
    becoming in the very act of believing, nobler and better out of such
    strife; and the man comes out stronger every time he wrestles with
    his baser self; his purer and nobler self comes out of the trial
    nobler and purer.

    There is a deep meaning in the temptation of our Saviour, when he is
    said to have been with the wild beasts, in that hour when the man is
    wrestling with the wild beasts, or the brute part of his nature, and
    his spiritual nature comes strong out of the struggle; just as the
    waving of the branches of the trees in the wind, makes the sap
    circulate to the tiniest leaflet, and brings the life-blood of the
    plant to every part.  This is the use and object of the act of faith;
    to train, discipline, and elevate the man.  Further, I have said, in
    every case in which a man believes in his better self, he becomes
    better; but we have to deal not only with our better selves, we have
    to come constantly in contact with other natures and other
    personalities than our own.  Now, what happens when we encounter a
    higher or more moral nature than our own?  Just the very same trial
    and discipline; because if a man comes to deal with a higher and
    better nature than his own, there is always a trial to the lower
    nature.  If a higher nature could be easily understood by a lower
    nature, then the two natures would be equal.  It is the very essence
    of a higher and purer nature to be something of a mystery to a lower
    nature.  Some of the sayings or the doings of that higher nature,
    will always appear strange and puzzling to the lower nature, just
    because it is a lower nature.  There is always the possibility of the
    lower nature saying of the higher nature, This nature is no better
    than mine, I do not believe in its higher or greater goodness.  But
    are these cynical, worldly-wise men who disparage others, generally
    speaking, the most improving and valuable of our acquaintances?  Do
    we not generally find these cynical, bitter, disparaging men to be
    men of low tone?  They have lowered their moral nature in the hour of
    probation and trial; they have sunk lower than themselves, because
    they have refused to believe in something higher and better than
    themselves.  If these men could have risen to the higher natures they
    had to deal with, then in that very hour, their own nature would have
    grown purer, nobler, and higher.  So we see again, the act of faith
    would be an act of probation, an act of discipline, an act of moral
    culture and growth.  Therefore we say it is true, “Blessed are they
    that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

    But now let us go one step further.  We have seen that in all
    morality there is an act of faith, and we believe in our own higher
    nature and the higher nature of others, and in so doing we ourselves
    grow better; but is there not something better still?  We that
    believe in higher natures than our own, is there not in our hearts an
    instinctive belief that there must be somewhere perfect
    righteousness, perfect truth, perfect holiness?  We seek for it,
    believe in it; do we ever find it?  The more we know of men, though
    we may know more of their excellencies, we are compelled to know
    something more too of their imperfections.  The result of this
    discovery is that one of two things happens, according as we listen
    to our understanding or our will.  The sceptical understanding says,
    There is no such thing as perfection anywhere.  That answer is
    unanswerable if we look only to experience.  Is that the answer of
    the soul and heart of man?  No, the soul and the heart rebel against
    this cheerless teaching.  The soul has ever been uttering its protest
    against this despairing creed, ever speaking its belief in the
    reality of a perfect righteousness, a perfect truth, a perfect
    holiness; but can never attain to it.  It may be a dream, but it is a
    dream that has haunted humanity from the first hour of its existence.
    We thus have faith in humanity, and the value of this faith is that
    it elevates the soul which believes in it; a faith which cannot
    justify itself to the understanding, a faith as deep as the human
    heart, and as old as the hills.

    There is in very deed, in a very true sense, although it may be a low
    sense comparatively, a religion of humanity; a creed and an act of
    faith; and that religion has for its creed these articles: man is
    pure; he is not a bundle of passions merely; man is responsible, he
    has to answer for his beliefs; man may yet be perfect.  There is no
    article in this creed that can be justified to the sceptical
    intellect, and yet there is not a single article in it that the
    loving heart of man, and that his soul in his highest and best
    moments, does not cling to as the very life of its life.  The heart
    of man believes in the perfectibility of humanity, in spite of sin
    and misery and oppression.  The long litany of man’s [imperfections?]
    comes down with a wail of despairing denial of the possibility of
    perfection.  Remedy after remedy has been tried, scheme after scheme
    has been invented, and have been borne away like the bubbles on the
    wave; but still the heart of man clings to the belief that there is a
    perfect goodness somewhere, even when civilisation fails to produce
    it, even in spite of what we have seen in the last three months when
    the most civilised nations of Europe have banded themselves together
    for mutual destruction; in spite of all this disproof of perfection,
    the heart of man clings to it still.  We do have faith in humanity,
    and the value of the faith is that it elevates the soul which
    believes in it.  This belief in the possibility of perfection, in the
    possibility of delivering men from sin and sorrow, this is not merely
    the dream of the poet, it is not merely the Utopia of the
    philosopher, but it is the instinctive might in the heart of the
    earnest worker, that gives strength to him who does his duty amid the
    haunts of sin and sorrow; it is this that sends the Christian worker
    into the back streets and lanes of our great cities; it is this that
    sends the Christian minister to the bedside of the dying; it is this
    that makes men toil and suffer for their fellow men, like him whom we
    worship, who saw in his dying hour of the travail of his soul and was
    satisfied.

    And now we take one step further.  We have seen that there is a faith
    which underlies all morality as well as religion, and that this faith
    is the discipline of the soul, and without it the soul cannot grow in
    morality or religion.  Let us suppose, for argument’s sake, let us
    suppose that for this yearning of the soul after an infinite
    perfection, there is a corresponding reality—an absolutely perfect, a
    supremely righteous and true and holy Being.  And let us suppose that
    it pleased him to make a revelation of himself to man; what should we
    expect beforehand respecting that revelation?  Should we not expect
    that it would follow the analogy of all other revelations to the
    higher and better part of man’s nature, and that inasmuch as morality
    needs faith, so this manifestation of the Perfect One would come in
    some way or other so as to call out the act of faith?  Should we not
    expect that if this were the only absolutely perfect nature, it would
    appear to our lower and inferior nature in some respects
    unintelligible, in some respects mysterious, in some respects
    contradictory?  For all mysteries, everything we cannot understand,
    must come to our understanding in the shape of contradictory
    propositions.  We must expect that this higher nature, this perfect
    nature, should try our faith.  If it would be unreasonable to suppose
    that an inferior man to himself should understand a man, so also it
    would be unreasonable to suppose that our nature should not find some
    difficulty in perfectly appreciating and understanding the absolutely
    perfect nature of a supremely perfect Being.  Should we not expect
    from analogy that we should have some more difficulty in
    understanding God, than we have in understanding man?  We must expect
    the same trial of our faith, the same probation and discipline of our
    spiritual nature, when it is brought into contemplation of this
    perfect nature.  Surely we should beforehand expect that this would
    be the case; surely we might say that the God who was perfectly
    understood could not be the true God.  When a man says, I want a God
    that is not a mystery; I ask, Do you know a man who is without a
    mystery?  Are you not a mystery yourself?  Is there one fellow being
    whom you understand?  And yet you say, I have not faith in a God whom
    I cannot understand.  Who can comprehend him who dwells in ineffable
    light, in whom there is no variableness nor shadow of turning?  If
    there be revelation from God at all, it must try the faith of man.
    In the next place, we should expect that it would be a revelation of
    a righteous person; because we know that the highest tendencies of
    our nature at their best moments are ever to find a righteous person,
    and our faith that has been cultivated in our brother man naturally
    looks for a person.  Faith has ever been trusting in a person, in a
    nature, and therefore we should expect beforehand that if there came
    a revelation of this God, it would not come in the shape of a
    revelation of doctrines or creeds, but that it would be a revelation
    of a person.  We Christians say there is made to us a revelation of
    the working of the Divine Will, and the purpose of the Divine
    Designer, in the works of his hands.  We say the invisible things of
    God are revealed by the things that are made.  There is that in the
    world which testifies to a creator and designer.  This we believe
    because there is that in us which instinctively, when it finds a work
    of art, supposes an artist; and finding a work requiring design, has
    belief in a designer.  We say, “The heavens declare the glory of God,
    and the firmament shows his handy work.”

    But this revelation must follow the law of all other manifestations.
    There must be a possibility of denying it; a discipline here, as in
    the other case, in which faith is called into play; and therefore,
    though the world reveals its maker, it does not demonstrate its
    maker.  “Day unto day is uttering speech, and night unto night
    showeth forth knowledge;” but the speech is like the speech for
    things spiritual, the utterance is for all who choose to believe it.
    If men will, they may put it aside; and some deny it in the face of
    the world.  God has willed that there shall be nothing in this world
    to demonstrate his existence; but it is now as of old, inasmuch as
    men did not choose to retain God in their knowledge, he gave them
    over to a reprobate mind.  There is a possibility, there is a
    necessity, in the manifestation of God, that it should try the faith
    of man.  Once more, we Christians believe not only that God has
    revealed himself in his works, but also in his word, in his Incarnate
    Word; that, in answer to the craving desire of the soul of man to
    look upon human perfection, this earth has once been walked upon by a
    perfect man; that in the story of the Gospels we possess that which
    no imperfect souls could ever have imagined, the lineaments of a
    perfect being.  I am not saying that it is so, but it is our belief.
    But before we opened the Gospels, we should expect according to the
    analogy of all other holy and righteous lives that we know of, that
    it should not demonstrate itself, should not make itself an
    impossibility to the sceptical mind to find fault with it, and should
    reveal itself to those whose lives were like it, so that wisdom
    should justify herself by her children.  We should not expect,
    judging from analogy of what we see in the world, that this life
    should in all respects silence all opposition, and be understood by
    every mind that it came in contact with.  We should expect to hear
    that he was despised and rejected of men, and some people besought
    him to depart from their coasts.  If the revelation of a divine and
    perfect nature is to follow the analogy of all revelations of a lower
    degree of perfection, and all manifestations of inferior natures,
    then we must expect the same law will govern this case as all others;
    there will be a possibility of doubt, and a trial of faith, and to
    those who conquer the doubt and exercise the faith, will the promise
    be realised, “Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have
    believed.”  Ah, it was not with faith in a series of propositions
    only, nor in a set of dogmas—though we believe the propositions and
    hold the dogmas, but in the light of faith in this person—that the
    disciples of the Perfect One went out to convert the world.  They did
    not preach Christ’s teaching, but Christ.

    Did it ever occur to you to read the Acts of the Apostles? if so, you
    will have seen how little of the words of Christ, how little of the
    teachings of Christ, appears there.  When we read in the Acts, how
    the Apostles went out to preach Christ, do we read that they gathered
    the multitude in the forum?  Did they say, Listen to the morality of
    the Gospels?  You will not find a quotation from the Sermon on the
    Mount.  What did they do?  They gathered the multitude together, and
    preached not the words of Christ, but Christ.  They said, Come and
    believe in this man; it was the personality, it was the life and
    death, and resurrection and ascension of him, that they preached.  It
    was a person in whom they asked the people to believe; and the result
    is this extraordinary and singular fact, that Christ is the only
    teacher among men whose life is greater than his teaching.  All other
    teachers have faded into insignificance in comparison with their
    teaching.  Who cares about the life of Euclid? but everybody believes
    in his teaching.  Men are fond of comparing Christ with Socrates.
    Let us take it so.  Did any man ever hear a person say, I am dead
    with Socrates; I am buried with Socrates; the life that I live is by
    faith in Socrates?  Were such words ever heard of any heathen
    teacher?  How comes it that men said this of Christ?  The faith of
    the soul went out to the nature and work of Christ.  The faith of man
    triumphed in the discovery of the perfect man.

    Now we have reached the last point to which I have desired to bring
    you in this series of sermons.  We have reached the historical fact,
    as to which others will follow me who will take up the subject, and
    who will show the evidence arising from history and prophecy.  My
    task ends in removing the stumbling-blocks which would prevent your
    coming to hear them.  It has been my part to lead you to the steps,
    to the threshold of the temple.  We have found difficulties that have
    kept many away from the entrance to the temple.  The first is the
    belief that Christianity is opposed to Freethought.  And I have
    endeavoured to show you that Christianity does not deny it, but
    asserts it; that where Christianity does deny it, law and society
    deny it.  The second difficulty is that of scepticism.  We have seen
    that it is fatal to morality, and to all the higher forms of human
    life, and that the sceptical understanding should submit to the soul.
    Christianity only requires what morality has done.  I have answered
    the objection that Christianity must appeal to faith, and must do so
    because it cannot find demonstration.  Our answer is that it has all
    the demonstration that is possible for the supernatural or for
    history.  Christianity does make demands on faith, but it acts in
    accordance with the analogy of human life; and Christianity in
    claiming faith justifies its claim to be a religion.

    Now the time comes to close this discourse, in which from my inmost
    soul I have set the truth before you.  I will ask you in all
    sincerity, Why do you suppose I am here?  Some may say because we are
    priests and bigots.  To me, if I must put it so, it makes no
    difference whether I come here or not.  Why do I come here?  Do you
    really, honestly believe, that I have come here to deceive you?  Will
    you not give me credit, that to the best of my ability and in all
    earnestness and honesty, I have endeavoured to put before you the
    reasons that seem to me sufficient for my belief?  Hear us, then, for
    this reason if for no other, that we desire your souls for our Lord
    and Master, that it is in his name we come among you, and because we
    believe that Jesus is the Son of God and came down from heaven to
    save men.  It is for this reason, and this only, that we are here to
    speak to you, that we may with the help of God deepen your faith or
    shake your unbelief.  We come with his word, that calls on you to
    follow the higher and not the lower part of your nature.  “Believe in
    the Lord Jesus Christ, and ye shall be saved.”  There are some who
    don’t believe in the first part of this message, there are few who do
    not believe that men need to be saved, saved in this world, and saved
    in the next, saved from some of the sin and misery in this world.  I
    ask, is there no need of faith, is there no desire for the objects of
    faith?  Among men have we not some need of faith?  The world is
    growing old and sick at heart.  All the remedies that have been tried
    for the evils of society, have been tried in vain.  Idol after idol
    has been set up, has been rocked on its basis, and shivered.  The
    gods of mankind have been taken away, and the cry of despondency has
    been raised, We have no humanity.  Is there any evidence that there
    shall be a perfection of humanity?  Is it from faith in men of
    science?  Did science ever comfort the afflicted, or allay human
    sorrows?  Faith in civilisation?  Can it remedy the evils that are
    conquering society?  Civilisation now means the gathering of men in
    great masses, to live the luxurious, the voluptuous life of great
    towns; it means the weary, toilful, haggard life of others in these
    same towns; it means the rich growing richer, and the poor growing
    poorer every day.  Civilisation throws its dark shadows in its track.
    Civilisation and science, have they arrested war, or softened the
    heart of humanity, or prevented strife between nations?
    Civilisation, science and art have invented mitrailleuses, and
    invented destructive methods of wholesale murder.  Where will you
    find in all these things a substitute for faith?  Some speak of the
    millennium, and of the natural state of man being remedied in this
    world.  We believe in the final perfection of man, but not in this
    world.  We believe in the reign of righteousness, but it is in the
    eternal world.  It is in that faith that we gain courage to look on
    the scenes and sorrows that afflict humanity.  It is in the strength
    of that faith that we look down on the graves of the departed, and
    believe all is not dust of the earth; but we take up the song of
    Christian triumph over death, and thank God for the message “Blessed
    are they that have not seen and yet have believed.”



THIRD REPLY
OF
MR. C. BRADLAUGH.
CHRISTIANITY AND FAITH.


ON Wednesday evening, April 5th, Mr. Bradlaugh delivered his third
lecture on “Christianity and Faith,” before an audience which crowded
every corner of the Free Library, Norwich.  He said: In delivering the
last of this course of lectures, permit me to commence by expressing my
regret, that those who differ from me consider it necessary to show their
disagreement in the manner in which it was expressed last night, on my
leaving this room.  If it had been the conduct of some ignorant young
persons only, I should not have deemed it right to waste one moment in
bringing the matter before you, but there were full-grown and decently
dressed persons, who were distributing religious tracts, who encouraged
others in following me, and using foul language.  I could not help
feeling how strong was the cause which I advocate, and how wretchedly
weak the cause of my opponents, when such weapons were resorted to in
lieu of fair reply.

I now address myself to the last sermon of the Bishop of Peterborough,
entitled “Christianity and Faith.”  The first portion of this was a
recapitulation of the principal arguments of the two previous sermons,
and then he made a statement utterly opposed to the whole purpose of his
sermons.  I will deal with the exact purport, if I do not read to you the
precise words he uttered.  He said, It is a waste of time to endeavour to
satisfy the consistent sceptic.  He said, We Christians, have absolutely
nothing in common with the consistent sceptic.  If that be true, why did
the Bishop come to preach the course of sermons to win back sceptics to
the Church?  Why did the Dean and Chapter inaugurate the course of
sermons, if it was, in their opinion, impossible to satisfy the sceptic?
Why did the Bishop say it was not only to strengthen the faith of those
in the church, but to win back those who had left it?  If it be not
possible to win them back, then the whole course of sermons was a mere
pretence, and I put it that the Bishop was, either consciously or
unconsciously, misleading his hearers as to his real views, or that he
did not know what he was talking about.  The Bishop offered some advice
to Christians for dealing with sceptics.  He said, Before you allow a
sceptic to put your belief to the proof, ask him what is it that he
believes.  That is what you have no right to do.  The sceptic does not
come to you at all to force his opinions on you.  You come to him when he
is in the cradle, and by aid of early habit and repetition of phrases in
lieu of thoughts, you put your religion into him, you train him to accept
your religion in school, you fashion his brain-power before it has
stability for resistance.  He has a right to express his disbelief in
your religion, and you have no right to pretend to answer him with a mere
What do you believe?  There is no equality in the two positions; religion
is law-protected, scepticism is law-condemned; and the Bishop has no
right to take such ground: a sceptic’s ignorance would be no evidence of
a believer’s knowledge.  But give the Bishop the full benefit of the
ground, and what does it amount to except that, after the Dean and
Chapter had made a parade of their desire to answer infidelity, declaring
that they would have the most competent man, this most competent man is
obliged to say, The only way I advise you to meet modern infidelity is by
admitting in effect, that you can do no more for your faith than to ask
the infidel, What do you believe?  I dismiss this; it is of so trifling a
character that if it had not formed a prominent part of the Bishop’s
sermon, it would not have been worth noticing.  The Bishop, in dealing
with Christianity and Faith, said that morality is built on faith, and
that in order to be moral and have a code of morality, we must exercise
an act of faith, and believe in our higher and better nature.  What is
our better nature, judging by the Churchman’s standard?  The Articles of
the Church of England declare that our nature is always lusting to do
evil.  The Litany says that each man is always trying to do wickedly, and
entreats the Lord to deliver us from the lusts of the flesh.  How then
can we be asked to trust in a higher or better nature, which the Church
declares is a nature fallen, depraved, and constantly tending to evil?
The doctrine of the Bible is that there is none who does good, that man’s
thoughts are evil continually.  It is sufficient for me to quote the
Litany in which the Bishop took part before his sermon, which said that
we are all miserable sinners, and prayed God to be merciful to us.  How
can we rise to our higher and better nature, if the existence of that
higher and better nature be authoritatively denied?  The Bishop says
there is an eternal opposition in our nature, between what he calls the
sceptical understanding and the spiritual faculty, between the mind which
we share with the animal and “the soul, which we Christians believe we
specially derive from God.”

Let us clear away a little difficulty here.  By mind I mean the totality
of cerebral ability and its results in activity, and I deny that we share
mind with any other animal at all.  Each animal has the mind special and
peculiar to its own organisation; and diverse races of men have diverse
characters and degrees of mind, limited by, and resulting from, their
organisation and its development.  But it is the Bible, and not the
sceptic, that says the mind of man and the minds of all other animals are
on a level.  The Bishop says that the sceptic would degrade man to the
level of the beast.  You have only to take the Bible and you will read:

    “I said in my heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that
    God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves
    are beasts.  For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth
    beasts; even one thing befalleth them . . . so that a man hath no
    pre-eminence above a beast.”

If the doctrine is degrading, it is the Bible that teaches the doctrine,
and not the sceptic.  Freethinkers never contend for anything of the
kind.  On the contrary, we say that the superiority of the intellect is
distinctly marked in its development, that not only are men mentally
superior to all other animals, but that some races of men are vastly
superior to others.  What does the Bishop mean by opposition between mind
and soul?  He did not trouble to give any evidence of the existence of
what he calls soul as apart from mind.  I challenge any one who may
follow me to give me any evidence of any sort of existence apart from
mind, that we can call soul.  The Bishop said that there is a constant
opposition between the intellectual faculty, the mind which we share in
common with the beast, and the spiritual soul.  I deny that the Bishop
advanced the slightest proof of—or gave any clue to—any such soul.  I
deny that it is possible for any man to conceive the existence of two
separate existences in man: one, mind; the other, soul.  As to the
opposition between them, the Bishop says that God created man’s
intellectual faculties, and that he also endowed man with a soul; and
that the soul is hostile to the mind; and that the mind is low and
grovelling, always in hostility to the soul.  He thus makes God put into
man a degrading nature, always hostile to religion, and in a constant
struggle with the soul.  No more degrading supposition can be made
respecting God, who is thus pictured as a malicious fiend; and if the
Bishop had intended to make infidels, he could not have contrived more
effectual means than the preaching this doctrine.

The Bishop, after dealing with the manner in which the spiritual part of
our nature overcomes what he calls the animal, the intellectual or mental
part of our nature—for he used all these words to describe the natural
man at war with the spiritual man—says that the manner in which the
spiritual conquers the other, is only by the unconscious training of the
man in Christian society.  The Bishop says that God has made many
millions of men, and given them minds in opposition to their souls, that
these minds are strong enough to lead men to evil, and they cannot be
brought to God, unless in Christian society; so that the Buddhists, the
Brahmins, the Mohammedans, and men of all other persuasions must
necessarily be damned, because, having no Christian society, there is not
amongst them the means of overcoming this natural mind.  This is a pretty
specimen of Christian teaching.  But the Bishop is not even content with
this.  Having told us that Christianity is founded on an act of faith,
and that faith is trust, he tells us that he believes that we are better,
nobler, than our understanding would persuade us we are.  Having told us
that we have a wicked nature, a depraved mind in conflict with the
spirit, he says that our morality is also to be founded on an act of
faith, that we are really better and nobler that we suppose.  Where do we
find the evidence to justify this act of faith?  We are, according to the
Bishop and his Church, all miserable sinners, nor can we do good without
the help of God.  There is that subtle serpent the devil constantly
working in us, and our nature is in league against God.  The Bishop says
the only way to overcome this horrid nature is by the training of man in
Christian society, and yet two minutes after, he tries to persuade us
that we are better, nobler than he and his church say we are.  He says,
in fact, we are all very wicked.  Adam ate an apple 6,000 years ago, and
we are, in consequence, all degraded and depraved; yet we are really
nothing of the kind.  The Bishop stated that the effect of belief in our
nobler, better nature is the improvement of our character, and it is by
believing in what is better and nobler, and in the possibility of being
better and nobler, that we grow better.  _Ergo_, so long as men believe
they are born in a state of natural depravity, and that of themselves
they cannot do good, so long as the mass of men believe that those are
depraved to damnation who cannot get trained in Christian society, so
long as they believe that millions of men will be lost because they live
without even hearing of Christ at all, so long they must be degraded by
that belief.  They must believe that God made the majority of mankind for
damnation and the minority for salvation; their faith must make
themselves into the incarnations of vileness and God into an almighty
fiend.

The Bishop, not content with such subtle logic, goes on to illustrations
drawn from the Bible, and speaks of the temptation of Jesus in the
wilderness.  He said there is a moral to be drawn from this temptation
story, because Jesus is said to have been with the wild beasts, and there
was a deep meaning in this saying.  I do read the Gospels sometimes, and
therefore puzzled myself about these wild beasts, not having read much of
them.  I remembered the Jesus-God being taken up a high mountain and
shown all the kingdoms of the earth, as a possible bribe if he would
worship his own creature the devil.  I remembered his being taken up to a
pinnacle of the temple and invited to cast himself down; but I did not
remember, nor do I now remember, anything about wild beasts, save a few
words in the Gospel of Mark, and it is not even there shown that these
wild beasts had anything to do with the Lord’s temptation.  Whether the
Bishop has a special version of his own I do not know.

Another point of the Bishop was, that when lower natures have to
contemplate higher natures, there is some mystery or contradiction to the
lower natures.  The man who tries to predetermine your decision on an
alleged matter of fact, by declaring that it is too mysterious for you to
understand, and that being mysterious, you must accept it as he explains
it, is a juggler with his intellect, and takes a position to which he has
no right.  The Bishop was good enough to talk of our degrading creed.
Let him talk of his own degrading creed.  Our creed has not invented a
bottomless pit filled to its brink with brimstone for everlasting
torture, nor has it manufactured a devil more mighty than God to destroy
God’s work.  Our degrading creed, at any rate, does not despair of human
kind, nor tell us that we should be poor here in order to be rich
hereafter, and be miserable here that we may be happy bye and bye, when
the life-ability for happiness is entirely gone.  We don’t despair of
human kind, we assert the improvability of the human race and we say if
we make this life as good as we can, we shall not be affrighted from our
task by any declaration that we may be unhappy hereafter.

But the Bishop went further, and carrying the war into our camp, he
declared that it was in consequence of faith in Christ that men did
Christian work, and he spoke of men doing good work among the sick, and
poor, and ignorant, and wretched, day by day because they were
Christians.  Does he mean to say that Mohammedans, and Buddhists, and
Brahmins have amongst them no kindly work for one another?  Does he mean
to say that men cannot be human unless they have the special Christian’s
creed?  But this Christian work has been going on for 1800 years, so at
least the Bishop says.  Let us turn the pages of its history over and
read what it has really done.  When Christianity was cradled in the
world, Italy and Greece had their poets, painters, sculptors, men of
literary fame, orators, comedians, and tragedians.  Wait for a century or
two till your much-vaunted Christianity has, by the aid of forgery,
fraud, and manufactured miracle, acquired some force.  Wait till the
priests, crushing out all other learning, have become the sole literary
power in Europe.  Did they teach the people?  No, they kept the people
ignorant.  (A voice, “No.”)  If any one says no, I will show century
after century what Christianity has been.  Your first century I will not
trouble with until you show me its actual pages; your second and third
centuries are crowded with the fabrication of forged evidences, the
canonisation of pretended saints; your fourth century shows the same
work, and marks also the quarrels commencing amongst yourselves for the
spoils now large enough to excite good Christians against each other; in
the fifth century Salvian one of your own presbyters, said the Christian
Church had become such a sink of vice, that it was a species of sanctity
for any one to be a little less vicious than the others.  He says of his
fellow Christians that they lie and cheat, are adulterers and murderers;
that it is easier to find a Christian guilty of all these crimes than one
guilty of none.  Take the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth
centuries of Christianity, when infidelity was almost powerless, before
Voltaire lived, before Spinosa wrote, before Bruno trod Europe round, and
you have in these centuries, when Christianity was the most powerful, the
dark ages of this European world, when all literature was stopped, all
philosophy was hindered, all science manacled by the Church.  What was
the Christian work in the eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth centuries,
when Christians marched to the Holy Land?  Let the plundered and
miserable countries tell; let burned villages and ravished women show the
way in which the soldiers of the Cross manifested their religion even to
their fellow Christians.  Let these pages of blood and rapine be read for
Christian work.  Where then was liberty or popular rights?  When the
king, the barons, and the priests were in power, did Christianity help
the people to get liberty?  It is only within the last 300 years, since
the rise of heresy in Europe, that the people have gained any freedom.
The Church of England may say, This is not our work; but it is a branch
of the Church of Rome, and ought not to repudiate the trunk it grew from.
Nay, it has not even the same right to plead to us as the Church of Rome.
The Church of Rome is consistent, and says to its followers, You on
religion are unable to think, we will and we do think for you.  The
Church of England says, You have a right to think for yourselves, but
damns you if you think differently from the Church.  You say that
hospitals are the fruits of Christianity.  Where, save in the
monasteries, were the hospitals for 1500 years?  You boast of schools.
Where were these at all for 1500 years?  There were even in this country
none worthy of the name for little children till Robert Owen set his
example at New Lanark.  You talk of going into the back streets, but is
it not true that squalor, misery, and vice, crowd the back streets
because the Bishops and the English Church have taken so much from the
people, and have so hindered the populace from self-improvement, that
they have only back streets themselves to live in, while they build
palaces for the king, and magnificent structures for the Church?  I
attack the Church of England because the Church has challenged me.  I
attack it as a leech that for centuries has sucked the life-blood out of
the people, and which, with the power to aid and help civilisation, has
done nothing but retard it.

The Bishop said, Let us suppose the existence of a supremely righteous,
true, and holy being; let us suppose a revelation from such a being; what
do you suppose such a revelation should be like? and he urged that the
Christian possessed such a revelation as groundwork for his faith.  I
hold the supposed revelation in my hand.  What does it reveal?  That God
made man and woman in the same day, but that he made them separately, the
man long before the woman.  That God gave them the fruit of every tree
for food, but prohibited them from eating the fruit of one tree, and
never intended that of another to be eaten by them; that he placed the
man and woman in a garden within reach of the tree whose fruit they were
forbidden to eat on pain of death, but the fruit of which was made good
for food and pleasant to the eyes; that God made a serpent more subtle
than all the beasts of the field; that this serpent tempted Eve, and she
ate the forbidden fruit, and gave to the man who ate also, and thus both
fell; that God, who had foreseen and predestined all this terrible farce,
cursed for Adam’s sake all human kind, millions being thus involved in
Adam’s ruin.  That all this was the work of an all-wise and all-good God,
with whom is no variableness nor shadow of turning.  This God, who is not
a man that he can repent, afterwards repented that he had made man, and,
although not subject to passions, it grieved him at his heart, and he
resolved to destroy all mankind.  That, man’s thoughts being wicked, this
God of love and forgiveness, of long suffering and loving kindness,
destroyed not only the full-grown man and woman, but also the little
child as yet without thought.  Man’s thoughts being wicked, God drowned
the whole world, including bird, beast, and creeping thing.  Did you ever
picture to yourselves this story of the flood?  Just paint in imagination
a mother with her child in her arms, wearily toiling up some hill,
slippery with the falling waters.  See her fleeing from the waves coming
swift behind, like ravenous wolves, with gaping mouths greedy for her
life.  Imagine her cry to heaven for mercy, not for herself alone, not so
much for herself, but for her child, a child, which sucking at her
breast, as yet knows no sin.  Then picture your all-loving and merciful
God shutting his ears to her wild shrieks for mercy, and drowning her and
her babe in the flood.

Did you ever picture to yourselves the scene when, the world being again
peopled, its inhabitants intended to build a tower that would reach to
heaven, and God, the all-wise, hearing of it in heaven, where he then
resided, came down to earth to see whether the rumour was true, and
finding that it was, confounded the language of men?  Do you recollect
how God chose Abraham—and I don’t deny that he was worth choosing, a man
who was just 75 years old when he had lived 135 years—how God, the
infinite and omnipresent, came down from heaven and told Abraham that in
his seed all the nations of the earth should be blessed; and that
Abraham, though so old that his body was “as good as dead,” should have a
son in his old age?  Have you read how God, who cannot lie, with a
covenant and an oath promised a certain land to Abraham, and how he never
gave him “so much as to set his foot on?”  Have you read how Sarah, it
having ceased to be with her after the manner of women, laughed when God
made the promise of a son; how God asked why she laughed; and how Sarah,
whose faith is praised, denied to God’s very face that she had laughed at
all?  Have you read that God said, I am the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and
of Jacob; that Jacob proved to be a knave and a liar; that Jacob made a
conditional bargain with the Almighty God, that if the Lord would do
certain things for him, then the Lord should be his God?  Have you read
how God promised to protect Abraham’s children, and how they became
slaves in Egypt, and how he left them to be oppressed?  Have you read
how, hearing their cries, God took them out of Egypt, amongst a number of
nations who had committed no crime against the Jews, but were created by
God to be destroyed by his chosen people?  Have you traced the track of
blood and murder from Egypt to Palestine?  Have you read how God gave the
Israelites the right to make war on any city, and if the inhabitants made
peace, then they were tributaries, but if not “I, the Lord God, will
deliver them into thy hands; thou shalt smite them utterly, and leave
alive nothing that breatheth?”

I say that this is not a revelation of love; it is the revelation, the
outgrowth of the instincts, of a barbarous and brutal people.  My Lord
Bishop, not content with relying on this revelation, after telling us
that the existence of a Deity cannot be demonstrated, seeks to supply us
with a demonstration by a vague reference to the argument from design.
He says that there are in the universe evidences of a designer.  This
argument from design is a most dangerous one, for the existence of stings
and fangs may be evidences of a designing malevolence; but permit me to
dismiss the argument with a quotation from Sir William Hamilton.  He
says:

    “We are utterly unable to conceive that it is possible for the
    complement of existence to have been either increased or diminished.
    We cannot, on the one hand, conceive of nothing becoming something,
    or on the other hand, of something becoming nothing.”

I challenge the Lord Bishop to show that it is possible to imagine any
time when the whole of the universe did not exist.  Creation! who is it
that really believes in creation?  Do any of you?  Let us fathom the
depths of the past as far back as we will, there is still the great
impenetrable beyond.  No man, even in thought, can annihilate existence,
or bring to light a first evolution of nature, and say, Here the universe
began.  There can be no origination of the universe conceivable by the
human mind.  But suppose you could in thought annihilate the universe.
You say that God is unchangeable.  Was there a moment when he began to
create?  Then is not that an assumption of an act of change?  I will not
stop to argue on this point.  The bishop did not on this head condescend
to argue at all.  His third sermon was only a torrent of ably delivered
words, and however fitting it might be for those whose faith was firm, it
was useless for drawing to the Church those without faith.  The Bishop
says, Our faith in Christ is confirmed by the story of his life as
recorded by his disciples.  He says that whether the Gospel of John is
true or untrue, it contains the delineation of a perfect being.  He spoke
of Christ as being better than any man the world has yet seen, as the
only teacher whose life was better than his teaching.  What is the
history of his life?  Jesus was born without a father.  His mother’s
husband had two fathers.  Jesus was descended from David, through Joseph,
who was not his father.  He was born in the reign of Herod, but was not
born till after the death of Herod.  Jesus passed his early life in
Egypt, but he was during the same time in Judæa.  He was baptised by
John, who knew him before the baptism, but who did not know him till he
had been baptised.  Jesus was taken into the wilderness, where he fasted
forty days, but he was during part of the same time at a marriage feast
in Cana of Galilee.  During the forty days’ fasting, the devil took Jesus
to the top of a high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the
world, and said, All these will I give thee, it thou wilt fall down and
worship me.  Yet this Jesus was, as the Bishop teaches, very God of very
God; and if so, could not be tempted with an offer of his own creation by
his own creature; and the temptation must have been a sham.  Jesus is
said to have worked miracles, but the people who had the opportunity of
seeing them never believed in them or him.  He fed 5,000 persons with
five loaves and a few fishes, and yet his own disciples—who, he promised,
should sit on twelve thrones, judging the tribes of Israel—when many
persons had to be fed at another time, wondered how it was to be done.
Jesus was betrayed by Judas with a kiss; but he was not so betrayed, for
when the armed men came to Jesus he asked them, Whom seek ye? and they
answered, Jesus of Nazareth; he said, I am he.  Jesus was crucified early
in the morning, and yet at noon he was still on his trial.  Jesus was
three days and three nights in the grave; but he was crucified on Friday,
his body was taken down from the cross on Friday evening, and it must
have been late on Friday evening when he was put into the sepulchre; the
first people who looked into it on Saturday night, as it began to dawn
towards Sunday morning, found that the body was gone; so that from Friday
night till Sunday morning, made three days and three nights!  Jesus
appeared to two of his disciples, and they did not know him; he walked
with them till the evening, and then they knew him.  When it was daylight
they did not know him, but when it was dark then they knew him.  While
they could see him, they did not know him; when they knew him, they could
not see him.  Such is the story of Jesus.  It is not true that his life
was better than that of any other man.

I will take a noble life, and put it against the life of Jesus, the life
of the Infidel Bruno against the life of your God Jesus.  Bruno was born
near Naples, and trained as a monk.  Leaving his ministry, to teach
people in their vulgar tongue, he was driven out of Italy.  Going to
Switzerland, bigotry was too strong, and he was driven thence.  At Paris
he debated with the doctors of the Sorbonne, until arguments failing
them, they drove him away with threats of the faggot.  From Paris he went
to England, there debating at Oxford and Cambridge; thence to Germany;
and thence back to Italy, where a prison awaited him, as a full
refutation of his heresies, where he was confined in a dungeon for eleven
years, where the rack was the answer to his arguments, and where he at
last died, a gallant martyr at the stake.  He died fearlessly confronting
his enemies, having truly told them that they had more fear in condemning
him to be burned alive, than he had in being condemned.

Jesus was God, and could not die; but if your Bible be true, his last
words were a despairing cry, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

Compare these two men in their lives and their deaths, and see which was
the nobler and the braver.  Jesus did not come to save the world.  He
said, I am sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.  Jesus told his
disciples not to go to the Gentiles, be forbade them even to visit the
Samaritans, and it was not till after his resurrection that he said, Go
ye into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature.  I have
spoken in language which you may think unfitting for such a theme.  Do
you believe the Bishop, that Jesus died to save all mankind?  Do you
believe the doctrine, that only those who have faith in Jesus can be
saved?  What is to become of those who have never heard his name?  Do you
believe that all the Chinese will be damned?  If you believe this, what
must you think of God?  If you believe that the Chinese will be pardoned,
because they cannot be expected to believe in Jesus of whom they have not
heard, how can you be so wicked as to send them Bibles and missionaries,
which may bring them to damnation?  I plead here for what some call
infidelity, for what some call heresy.  I plead for the rights of
humanity.  I plead against a system which, to my mind, has greatly
hindered the education of the world, and impeded its improvement; and if
you tell me that my language is coarse and blasphemous, I will ask you in
what language do your missionaries describe the Mohammedan and his Koran,
the Brahmin and his Vedas?  You call me an Infidel; what are you?  You
disbelieve all the religions of the world save one, I disbelieve that one
also; my disbelief is but one degree greater than yours.

A Bishop comes now in the nave of the Cathedral, to answer modern
Infidelity.  Why does modern Infidelity exist?  Why has Infidelity grown?
It has grown because the Church has grown fat and the people lean.  It
has grown because Convocation quibbles over rites and formularies,
instead of devising schemes for the redemption of mankind from ignorance;
because the Church said nothing while back streets were built for the
poor, and grand abbeys and cathedrals for the priest.  The rich grow
richer and the poor grow poorer, while the Church pretends to regard as a
blessing the poverty she carefully avoids.  The Church pretends to have
the authority to speak in the name of God, and the Bishop, on that last
evening, prayed for my conversion.  You see the effect of that prayer in
these lectures.  Clergymen threw down the gauntlet, and it has been taken
up.  We have been attacked, and we will compel the Church to afford us a
hearing.  You have now no right to say that we are too insignificant,
after you have yourselves challenged us to the fray.  You must not
pretend that modern Infidelity is too blasphemous; you have undertaken to
confute it by competent persons.  I appeal to Christians of every sect
for one thing only; I don’t ask you to give me your faith, but to
remember that amid the hundreds of religions with innumerable
antagonistic Churches and Chapels, that amid the multiplicity of error,
you may be wrong.  We do not pretend to be perfect thinkers, nor thinkers
free from error; we claim only to be earnest thinkers, desiring to be set
right where wrong.  I deny the right of any Church to pretend to be the
only true Church.  I take the right to utter my thoughts.  The Church of
England is a rotten Church, a falling Church, a Church divided against
itself, a Church with Colensos and Voyseys, as against Puseys and
Mackonochies, a Church which by the admission of her own divines is
illogical, which cannot defend her Thirty-nine Articles, nor her
Athanasian Creed.

I have finished these lectures, and I ask those who intend to follow me
to remember that Freethought has done something since the days of
Spinoza, Carapanella, and Bruno.  It is only since Freethinkers began to
fight against the Church that there has been any real popular progress
made by you Liberals.  The Church has not helped you at all.  It has by
its bench of bishops hindered your reforms as long as it could, and
maintained tithes and exactions and bad laws till humanity rebelled
against the obstruction.  Whether right or wrong, we have at least done
something to make the world better worth living in.  (Applause.)

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